LEE family puzzle

[deeiluka]

If anyone would like a challenge, the LEE family I’m trying to research in England and Australia is proving one. I have family living at St George in the East, Middlesex in 1871 .
RG10/540/57/8

James McKenea/McKENEA  aged 56 born Ireland  Labourer
Ann McKENEA wife aged 52 born Lancashire
Ann LEE  married    daug aged  27 born Wales
Alice McKENEA daug aged 15 born France
James LEE   grandson aged 4 born St George in the East, Middlesex
Peter LEE grandson aged 2 born St George in the East, Middlesex
Elizabeth LEE aged 5 Months granddaughter St George in the East, Middlesex

I’ve found the marriage of daughter Ann to her husband John LEE in 1865 St. Lukes 1b/1192 Dec Qtr, and the births of children Peter and Elizabeth in 1868 and 1870 respectively in St George at the East.
Ann is married as Ann McKENNE.

I’ve been told that four brothers migrated to South Australia in the 1880s, and the next I found of any of the family is In Memoriam Notices on Trove newspapers for mother Ann HEWITT. The children’s names given were Peter, James, Frank, Florence (D I L), Mary ( D I L), loving daughters, Lizzie, Bertha, Connie, and Alice Lee, with the daughters and Frank being said to be of Broken Hill.

Following that I found the remarriage of the widowed Ann LEE in South Australia on 21st April 1892 to the widower Charles Thomas HEWITT in the Registry office, Adelaide. Ann’s father was given as James McANNA.

I know the history of Peter and Florence LEE so don’t need any help with that.

I’ve found the marriage of a Frank LEE to Mary A R LAKE in 1905, an Alice E LEE to Adam L CAIN in 1909 and a Bertha M A LEE in 1914 to William H C SMITH, all in Broken Hill.

However, I’m having trouble getting any further. I sought help on the Census board but no-one can find them after or before 1871.
 I can’t find any definite births in England apart from those of Peter and Elizabeth. I can’t find births/deaths in Australia either. As for husband John, word of mouth and the marriage in 1865 is the only sight of him!
As to how and when the family arrived, that’s a mystery too.

So any help would be greatly appreciated. (I know …..LEE! )       


Dee   

[Neil Todd]

Hi Dee, Hows the wonderful Iluka?

Umm might your John Lee working as a "Pot Boy" servant to a William Knight b1832 and Wife Elizabeth b1833. John's age is given as 1843 in the 1861 census.

The Knight family run a Shellfishmongering business and a Ale Stone business.

The address of the business is given as 26 Charing Cross London Middlesex. John's Birthplace is given as St Georges in the East.

Neil

[deeiluka]

Thanks for that 1861 sighting of a John LEE, Neil.
It's certainly worth looking at and having on file.


Dee   

[majm]

Hi Dee

Would you like me to go through my Western Districts off line resources forNSW including 1903 and 1913 ERs and History For Bourke etc

Cheers Clunky JM

[deeiluka]

If you're brave enough to do that for LEE, JM, I'd appreciate it.   


Dee......hot and bothered....... 

[Neil Todd]

Hi again, I have his family living at 49 Park street St Georges Hanover Square in 1851. His dad John is a Baker employing two men.
His dad b1811, mother Carolin b1812, sisters Emma b1833 and Elizabeth b1840 and brother Thomas b1844.

Neil

[majm]

well err

Neil will confirm that I can be brave so I will turn the e reader off and get cracking ... expect some sightings that will be for wrong LEE faqmilies though but at least you have given me a smaller area with some years and some given names.  You can imaagine how brave or foolhardy I am !

Cheers JM

[deeiluka]

It might help, JM, that I have just matched up the Broken Hill marriages of Frank, Bertha and Alice with births on FREEBMD, so they are definitely the right LEEs.   

Bertha Margaret A LEE born Jun Qtr 1877 at St. Geo. East  1c/48

Births Mar 1874
Alice Elizabeth LEE born Mar Qtr 1874 at St. Geo. H. Sq.  1a/398   

Births Dec 1872   
Frank William LEE  born Dec Qtr at St. Geo. East 1c/ 456


Neil, I'll look at that one too.   
From the births I've just located I know the family were still in the UK in 1877.


Dee   

[majm]

NSW ER 1903, The BARRIER, polling place Burke (no, not the town of BOURKE in NSW, but Burke as in part of Broken Hill)

All with surname LEE

Annie, William St, dd
Eliza, Mica St, dd
Elizabeth, Mica St dd (could be two lasses, or could be duplication with Eliza)
Lucy Jemima, Cobalt St, dd
Pliny, (M for Male), Cobalt St, bootmaker
William, Wyman St, labourer

And same roll, but polling at Willyama, another of the B Hill polling places
All with surname LEE

Annie, Wolfram St, dd
Arthur George Wolmshurst, Chapple St, labourer
Arthur Murray, Beryl St, miner
Edward, Oxide St, carpenter
Efflie Juliana, William St, dd
George, Argent St, labourer,
John William, Chapple St, labourer,
Louisa, Blende St, nurse
Margaret, Lane St, dressmaker
Mary, Lane St, dressmaker,
Robert William, Oxide St, miner
Robert William, Chloride St, fireman
Timothy, Cobalt st, trucker
Timothy, senior, Wolfram St, labourer
Timothy, junior, Wolfram St, miner

(and there’s LEES as well)

Polling at Alma
All surnamed LEE
Denis, Piper St, labourer,
Samuel, Piper St, miner

Polling at Broken Hill North
All surnamed LEE
Ann Maria, Argent St, dd
Elizabeth, Lane lane (yes that is what it reads), dd
George, Thorndale, dairyman
Joseph, Argent St, miner

Polling at Cobham Lake
William Edward Horace LAKE, (was that a surname of interest), Mount Arrowsmith, labourer

Polling at Milparinka
James LEE, labourer, Yandama station

Polling at Momba
Charles Robert LEE, contractor, Avenue
Sarah Jane LEE, dd, Avenue


Polling at White Cliffs (I said cheerio to my forebears !)
All surnamed LEE, no further addresses on this roll
Edward, miner
Edward Arthur, miner,
Henrietta, dd
Joseph, MUSICIAN
Zachariah, miner

Polling at Wilcannia
Charles Robert LEE, Field St, labourer

JM adds the following proviso .... FOR ANYONE READING THIS THREAD on a speculative search,  the information above does NOT indicate any AGE of these people, NOR any marital status, NOR does any street address have the actual HOUSE NUMBER, so it would be sensible to presume that NONE of these people are related to any other person mentioned in this particular post.  Persons enrolled to vote on the 1903 rolls for NSW needed to be at least 21 years of age and British Subjects (either as natural born subjects or by naturalisation).  Also, "dd" is shorthand for domestic duties, it does NOT indicate that the female was receiving a wage as a domestic servant, but it usually means the female was at home, and not gainfully employed elsewhere 



Well, that’s the 1903 Broken Hill district for LEE, with one LAKE .... I will have a cuppa and look for the other surnames shortly.    You are a good detective Dee, so enjoy the above 

Cheers,  JM