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Williams/Deegan
« on: Monday 20 May 13 22:46 BST (UK) »
I am trying to find out more about my Great Uncle Frederick Williams who was born in Carlow in the mid to late 1800s.  I believe he was married to a Mary Deegan who may have come from Arles or Carlow town and may have been a confectioner. The reason I think there may be a connection with Arles is that I believe Uncle Fred was buried there.  He died in Carlow on 15th. June 1951.  Any help would be very welcome.

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Re: Williams/Deegan
« Reply #1 on: Monday 20 May 13 23:14 BST (UK) »
Have you found him in any census records yet (on http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/)? have you checked for a possible birth registration (on www.familyseach.org)?
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« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 21 May 13 02:50 BST (UK) »
yes I have found Fred on 1901 and 1911....I am now trying to progress.  I remember seeing him as a small child....he died just before I was 4.

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Re: Williams/Deegan
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 21 May 13 09:36 BST (UK) »
Was he married in the 1911 Census - if so there should be a record of how many years married and it would be possible to look for the marriage cert .
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Re: Williams/Deegan
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 21 May 13 21:23 BST (UK) »
No he was still single then.

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Re: Williams/Deegan
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 21 May 13 21:49 BST (UK) »
There is an entry in the civil marriage index for a Frederick Williams Carlow registration district Oct-Dec 1913 Vol. 3 page 311 However the three females listed on teh same page are annie Slattery Bridget Mooney and Mary Neill - it maybe that one female was omitted as there are 4 males (including Frederick ) on the same page. May be a possibility. I didn't find any other Frederick Williams that might  be relevant.
I'm curious where is the Arles you refer to ?
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Re: Williams/Deegan
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 22 May 13 08:31 BST (UK) »
based on the date of death you mentioned and the corresponding BMD Index entry (died age 82 - so born c1869) this appears to be Frederick Williams on the census returns :

 1901  William's household, Tullow St., Carlow town
 1911 Williams household, Yellow St., Carlow town

Arles is a village located in the townland of Ballynagall, Co. Laois to the north west of Carlow town. It's also the name of the RC parish for that area.
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Re: Williams/Deegan
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 22 May 13 19:41 BST (UK) »
Annclare....where can I access these record please? 

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« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 22 May 13 19:42 BST (UK) »
Annclare....where can I access these record please? 
The online Irish civil registration index is at www.familysearch.org.
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