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Re: Help with a McCall family in Glasgow as of 1857
« Reply #27 on: Friday 14 November 14 00:23 GMT (UK) »
Hi David,
I can see now that Patrick John McCall was the son of Patrick McCall and Juda McCall.
I also note that "John" does not appear on his birth cert

I am stumped!
I can find no trace of him between his birth and 1888 marriage.
I have looked at every Juda (all surnames) and Patrick/Peter McCall ( all variant possibles) at 1861 and 1871 and no one seems to fit their profiles.

As he seems to have added John to his name, I wonder if he was raised by another family or if the RC church was involved?

He is a mystery

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Re: Help with a McCall family in Glasgow as of 1857
« Reply #28 on: Friday 14 November 14 02:38 GMT (UK) »
He is indeed, but thank you again for trying! I have never been able to crack this one...

I guess one explanation is that he and Juda were married in Ireland, went to Scotland as laborers, and then returned to Ireland before 1861. The family were originally Scottish and presumably part of the Cromwell relocation program, so perhaps there were still distant relatives in Glasgow. I wonder if the mythical brother David the coach builder is a potential clue.

Thanks again!

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Re: Help with a McCall family in Glasgow as of 1857
« Reply #29 on: Friday 14 November 14 08:10 GMT (UK) »
Have you checked for death records of his father in Glasgow prior to 1861?

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Re: Help with a McCall family in Glasgow as of 1857
« Reply #30 on: Friday 14 November 14 15:52 GMT (UK) »
I had looked at one time, and could find nothing for either Patrick or Juda McCall between 1857 and 1861.



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Re: Help with a McCall family in Glasgow as of 1857
« Reply #31 on: Friday 14 November 14 16:18 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
Been reading through the thread. :)
Finding it a bit of a co-incidence that Patrick McCall was born in 1857 at 16 Dixons Square , Finnieston Street Glasgow and that there is a family with head of household Patrick McCall at that address on 1861 Census. 
Looby :)

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Re: Help with a McCall family in Glasgow as of 1857
« Reply #32 on: Friday 14 November 14 16:43 GMT (UK) »
Thought this was quite interesting  :-\

1851 Census - 157 Main Street Finnieston Glasgow. 

John McColl     Head    age 28  married      Foundry Labourer   born Ireland
Mary McColl     Wife     age 23  married                                  born Ireland
Patrick McColl  Brother  age 24 unmarried   Foundry Labourer   born Ireland     remark Lodger
Michael Hughes Brother age 20 unmarried   Foundry Labourer   born Ireland                   Lodger

The couple on the 1861 Census at Dixons Square are Patrick McCall and Mary McCall m/s Hughes.

Looby

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Re: Help with a McCall family in Glasgow as of 1857
« Reply #33 on: Friday 14 November 14 17:40 GMT (UK) »
RC baptisms have this record

Bapt.01/03/1856 MCCALL PATRICK  son of PATRICK MCCALL & MARY HUGHES at GLASGOW, ST PATRICK'S

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Re: Help with a McCall family in Glasgow as of 1857
« Reply #34 on: Friday 14 November 14 17:46 GMT (UK) »

RC baptisms have this record

Bapt.01/03/1856 MCCALL PATRICK  son of PATRICK MCCALL & MARY HUGHES at GLASGOW, ST PATRICK'S

Think there's a separate Statutory Birth Record for that one  ???

david has a birth cert for Patrick Mcall born June 1857....

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Re: Help with a McCall family in Glasgow as of 1857
« Reply #35 on: Friday 14 November 14 18:44 GMT (UK) »
I have also looked at this info for a bit today...and got nowhere  :-\

Juda is not a name really. So very unique...and however it ended up there as Juda, sadly that, and the same surname of McCall is all we have for now. Which for me has not helped.

I saw there was a death in Anderston, Glasgow in 1859 (from general searches on SP), where Patrick John was born, for a Patrick McColl. There is no age showing on the index although likely the age shows on the image of the death registration.

David, as mentioned earlier, where did Patrick John remarry for a second time? You mentioned a remarriage after the death of first wife, Catherine, in 1905 in Hamilton. From the name of second wife you gave, Elizabeth Lankton, where did this marriage take place. Couldn't see it on Scotlands People. If it happened in England, the cert won't help further as again only fathers' name will be showing.

Tried to find a David McC*ll, coach builder (or something related!) 1881-1901, but again got nowhere with that.

Monica  :-\

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