William Kelly, Buncrana, Co Donegal

[Henry5]

Hello,My Great grandfather  Joseph Kelly(1892-1965) moved from near Buncrana, Co Donegal to Scotland, he married Jane Daly in 1914 before going off to France in WW1. I have been told that his Fathers name was William Kelly And his mother was Margaret Dohertey. 
  On the 1911 census for Ireland William is 53 years old And Margaret is 52. I have been looking for other records of William and Margaret.   I am unsure of the area, but I am thinking that people Either moved abroad or stayed where they were. I am hoping that they were born in the area but I can not find a marriage record, or birth record for them as this would have possibly given me the names the parents.  Has anyone any idea what to try.
Thank you Henry 

[aghadowey]

This looks like the link for the 1911 census you mentioned- parents married c1887 and had 10 children (9 living)- William listed as farmer (does this match his occupation on Joseph's marriage certificate?):
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Donegal/Mintiaghs/Shandrim/492403

Same family in 1901- with son Joseph aged 9:
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Donegal/Mintiaghs/Shandrim/1182150

Parents William and Margaret both born before the start of registration so there will be no birth certificates for them. All their children should have birth certificates and you can search the online index to get the details needed to order the certificates.

Have a look at Introduction to Irish Records and My Ancestor came from Ireland - where do I start?.

Added- Shandrim townland is in the Poor Law Union/registration district of Inishowen so keep an eye out for that in the index.

[aghadowey]

Here's a map of the Parish (Fahan Lower) which might be useful- lots of other great bits of information on this website. More links also in DONEGAL RESOURCES and CHURCH RECORDS at top of this board.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bhilchey/MFahanlower.html

[Henry5]

Thank you for the help, Yes they are the correct Family.  Being a beginner I did not know what year registration started in Ireland, something I need to know.
the note about the poor law union district,  Does that mean that they might be mentioned on the records or that they were at some point in the poor/work house.
thanks again Henry

[aghadowey]

"the note about the poor law union district,  Does that mean that they might be mentioned on the records or that they were at some point in the poor/work house."
No. Ireland was divided into Poor Law Unions which each had its own Workhouse but when civil registration started these Poor Law Unions formed the basis of the registration districts. To search for details on townlands in Ireland (civil parish, poor law union, etc.) see http://www.thecore.com/seanruad.
Word of warning- registration districts divided into sub-districts which are sometimes listed in LDS database (www.familysearch.org).

Thus, when searching for the Kelly children (presuming all born at Shandrim) the civil index should be Inishowen.
Here's a few possible births to start with-
Rose Anne Jan./Mar.1888 Inishowen volume 2 page 122
Joseph Jan./Mar.1892 Inishowen volume 2 page 105
Owen Jan./Mar.1894 Inishowen volume 2 page 117
Sarah Oct./Dec.1897 Inishowen volume 2 page 103
George Apr./June 1903 Inishowen volume 2 page 109

This looks like the parents' marriage:
William Kelly Jan./Mar.1887 Inishowen volume 2 page 159- Margaret Doherty on same page.

[aghadowey]

From 1901 and 1911 there are 9 children listed:
Rose Anne (c1888) Rose Anne Jan./Mar.1888 Inishowen volume 2 page 122
Annie (c1890)
Mary (c1891)
Joseph (c1892) Joseph Jan./Mar.1892 Inishowen volume 2 page 105
Owen (c1893) Owen Jan./Mar.1894 Inishowen volume 2 page 117
William (c1896)
Sarah (c1898)
Patrick (c1901)
George (c1903) George Apr./June 1903 Inishowen volume 2 page 109

[Henry5]

I have found the wedding record.
17 Feb 1887 at Buncrana,
 but there is no mention of the parents.       would this be normal on this type of record and it would show the parents on the original. Or would I not learn anything from the original.  It says that George Hawkin and Mary Jackson were witness's 

[aghadowey]

Is that a church record?

See here for details on civil marriage certificates- fathers should be listed but not mothers:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,433042.0.html

[Henry5]

It says that it is a church record, But it is taken from  a pay per view web site. I will attach it but I will have to buy a copy of the original,  Any idea how much they cost?

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