Mabel Alice Rickard nee Blair

[kiwihalfpint]

And have you checked the 1919 electoral roll to see if any female adults are living with William in Drury.

Beg, the earliest the above William appears on the Franklin Roll is 1935.


Cheers
KHP

[Beg Clonrode...]

Thanks KHP

I didn't want to go purchasing records without something a bit solid to go on.

Hi Wendy...

The "something a bit solid to go on" would be the 1919 birth of your grandmother.

Does your grandmother have any siblings born over 100 years ago. If so you could check their births on the BDM NZ website as it would list parents.

I'm curious as to what made you make a connection between your grandmother and William and Mabel RICKARD, apart from them all having the same surname.

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The reason I mentioned Mabel Alice NIVEN is that BDM NZ Deaths says she was born in Dec 1882 and BDM NZ Births mentions a Mabel BLAIR born in Dec 1881. Born in the early 1880's and married in 1902 is possible.

Mabel Alice NIVEN is buried in Waikumete. Would need to trace her back through electoral rolls to see when she appears.

Regards
Beg

[jorose]

Unless we have certainty that Irene was born in NZ, the 1938 marriage may be the place to start.

[kiwihalfpint]

Mabel Alice NIVEN is buried in Waikumete. Would need to trace her back through electoral rolls to see when she appears.

There is a Mabel Alice Niven that  first appears 1919 & 1928 E/R  in the Rangitikei, Manawatu-Wanganui area.

Then :

Mabel Alice Niven    1935    Patea    Taranaki
Mabel Alice Niven    1938    New Plymouth    Taranaki
Mabel Alice Niven    1946    New Plymouth    Taranaki
Mabel Alice Niven    1949    Roskill    Auckland
Mabel Alice Niven    1949    New Plymouth    Taranaki
Mabel Alice Niven    1954    Roskill    Auckland
Mabel Alice Niven    1957    Roskill    Auckland
Mabel Alice Niven    1963    Onehunga    Auckland
Mabel A Niven    1969    Onehunga    Auckland

Haven't gone through the addresses, just posted the years of her movements for you Beg

Cheers
KHP

[bundygirlsmum]

Oh thanks for your efforts KHP.  According to the paperspast the divorce stories list William as a farmer and they were married at the Maori Church in Otaki. A search on him in the electoral rolls has them living in Manakau.

[Lucy2]

Hi

Mmm... not sure about how Mabel Alice NIVEN has come into "the mix" 

The lady of this name who appears in NZ electoral rolls (at Taranaki and later of Auckland), seems to have been Mabel Alice (nee WEST), the wife of George Wilson NIVEN.

The "Feilding Star" - 21 August 1916 - page 4 (Taihape Boy in England) gives an account of their marriage in England.
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz
[George Wilson NIVEN d. 1959 (NZ) aged 68 years. ]

    ~  Lu

[Beg Clonrode...]

...not sure about how Mabel Alice NIVEN has come into "the mix" 

Hi Lucy...

Just name association. Nothing spectacular.

Thanks for discounting it.

Regards
Beg

[Lucy2]

..... the 1938 marriage may be the place to start.

Hi Wendy

I'm inclined to agree that the 1938 marriage of Irene Margaret RICKARD, is the place to start. 

If indeed she was born in 1919, then at the time of her marriage she was still deemed to be a minor (under the age of 21 years) and as such, required parental permission to marry.

Before applying for the (non-historic) marriage record from NZ BDM, you may like to request (under a separate topic) a look-up of the "Intention to Marry Notice" (ITM).   Usually the name of the person giving consent, is recorded on the ITM. 

I should point out also that Irene's husband is shown on the 1938 marriage index as "Stanley REES" [Folio # 08356 ].   You'll need these details too if applying for the non-historic marriage printout.

I suspect that the marriage may have taken place in Wellington ?   [Stanell William Gale REES who was widowed in February 1937, and was residing at that time in Petone, Wellington, was still on the Hutt electoral roll as at 1938.   I didn't find anything to show that his name had been removed from that particular roll. ]

And as suggested earlier, it is still a good idea to see if you can find Irene's NZ birth registration c. 1919. 

   ~   Lu

[bundygirlsmum]

Thanks Lu. Can I obtain these records if I live outside NZ?

Stanell (Stanley) and Irene lived in Palmerston North for many years. In fact, he lived there until his death.

Cheers
Wendy