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Re: Mary Duguid & Hanie, Aberdeenshire
« Reply #9 on: Monday 29 July 13 19:44 BST (UK) »
Thanks again Malky,

I've looked at the cemetery lists. The only possible match I see for Mary is a Mary E Duguid in Undy Cemetery - 1901 if memory serves. Not knowing her parents, it makes it hard to identify if its her or not by way of dc. I've not been able to find a bc for her.

Do you know anyone who has a transcript of that headstone in the off chance it mentions being erected by her son? Of course, it wouldn't have been out of the question for her to have married.
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Re: Mary Duguid & Hanie, Aberdeenshire
« Reply #10 on: Monday 29 July 13 19:46 BST (UK) »
Check out this death;Mary Duguid,45,other surname Barber,died Monquhitter,1875.
I "spent " 1 credit & found her!
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TAYLOR, COBBAN, SCOTT, PATERSON, BARCLAY,  DUNCAN, SKENE, SIM, WOOD, STEPHEN, ROSE,  CUMINE, MORISON, GERRARD, PYPER, ANDERSON,  FARQUHAR, BURNET, THOMSON, DAVIDSON, BIRNIE,  STRACHAN, DEY, GERRIE, ROBERTSON, FINNIE, WYLLIE,STEPHEN,WILLOX,MICHIE,MARR,BRUCE, CLUBB,SLESSOR,CLARK, SIMPSON,HEPBURN,SINCLAIR,BEEDIE,FOWLIE, CLYNE,FINDLATER, JOHNSTON,BROCKIE,PARK, WATT,MACKIE,WALKER,YEATS,THIRD, BURD,EWAN,ARTHUR,AUCKLAND, MURDOCH,LOW, IRVINE,CHALMERS,BOYES, LYON,SMITH,ADIE, WATSON - ALL N.E.SCOTLAND.

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Re: Mary Duguid & Hanie, Aberdeenshire
« Reply #11 on: Monday 29 July 13 19:51 BST (UK) »
Had a quick look but don't think the Mary Duguid in Udny is her. Forgot to say the death certificate I mentioned was in scotlandspeople:)
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TAYLOR, COBBAN, SCOTT, PATERSON, BARCLAY,  DUNCAN, SKENE, SIM, WOOD, STEPHEN, ROSE,  CUMINE, MORISON, GERRARD, PYPER, ANDERSON,  FARQUHAR, BURNET, THOMSON, DAVIDSON, BIRNIE,  STRACHAN, DEY, GERRIE, ROBERTSON, FINNIE, WYLLIE,STEPHEN,WILLOX,MICHIE,MARR,BRUCE, CLUBB,SLESSOR,CLARK, SIMPSON,HEPBURN,SINCLAIR,BEEDIE,FOWLIE, CLYNE,FINDLATER, JOHNSTON,BROCKIE,PARK, WATT,MACKIE,WALKER,YEATS,THIRD, BURD,EWAN,ARTHUR,AUCKLAND, MURDOCH,LOW, IRVINE,CHALMERS,BOYES, LYON,SMITH,ADIE, WATSON - ALL N.E.SCOTLAND.

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Re: Mary Duguid & Hanie, Aberdeenshire
« Reply #12 on: Monday 29 July 13 20:40 BST (UK) »
Awesome. Thanks Flst.  :) I'm getting better at SP, but still miss things that seem obvious to others.  ::) ;D

I'm off to purchase that now.
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Re: Mary Duguid & Hanie, Aberdeenshire
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 31 July 13 14:39 BST (UK) »
Good morning. Thanks again for all the help so far.

I've successfully retrieved Mary's death certificate from SP. (Why does that site scare me so much?  ::) :P ;D)

Please provide your thoughts on her parents. She was born illegitimately to the couple in the cropped record I've posted. How would you interpret the reference to Elizabeth Walker with M.S. Barber on the line that should be occupation? Might it mean Elizabeth Walker was a maid servant in the Barber home? ???

In the record directly above, the mother's name Margaret Bartlett appears with occupation M.S. Smith; similarly in the mother's record immediately below Mary's is Jane Stuart M.S. Smith.

Thanks again for any direction you can provide. :)
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Re: Mary Duguid & Hanie, Aberdeenshire
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 31 July 13 14:42 BST (UK) »
I think women were not expected to have an occupation, so the space was always used for the maiden surname.

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IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
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Re: Mary Duguid & Hanie, Aberdeenshire
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 31 July 13 14:47 BST (UK) »
Thanks for weighing in Josey. Sorry to be obtuse.  ::)  ;D

Are you saying that Elizabeth Walker's name was actually Barber?  ???
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INKSTER of Shetland, Edinburgh, Sask and BC
GAUNT of Yorkshire, Kent, BC & Australia
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Re: Mary Duguid & Hanie, Aberdeenshire
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 31 July 13 15:14 BST (UK) »
Scottish married women were known [as you probably know] by their own name for many centuries. Only later as forename then 'maiden name or married surname' eg Elizabeth Barber or Walker [born Barber but married a Walker]. Perhaps it refers to her being 'known as' Walker rather than having married. I suppose it was always a chance that the 2 names were transposed & she would have [erroneously] be called Elizabeth Walker or Barber. And don't forget that the information on the death certificate is only as good as the knowledge of the informant & sometimes hearsay.

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Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
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Re: Mary Duguid & Hanie, Aberdeenshire
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 31 July 13 16:15 BST (UK) »
Thanks Josey.

While I was out for my walk & began to wonder if it meant "mother's surname".

Elizabeth appears to have gone on to marry Mary's father, so her married name afterwards was Duguid. I'll check to see if she was married before. ::)
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BAIN of Aberdeenshire, Trafford district, Red Jacket and Moosomin, Sask
CHEYNE of Aberdeenshire & Trafford district, Sask
FISHER of Yorkshire, Ontario & Saskatchewan
INKSTER of Shetland, Edinburgh, Sask and BC
GAUNT of Yorkshire, Kent, BC & Australia
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MITTELHAUSSER of Soufflenheim, Alsace
MULLER or MILLER of Drusenheim, Alsace & Ont