James Stuart, Ballindalloch/Inveravon, b.ca.1830

[loobylooayr]

Carole,
That looks interesting too, especially with the McPherson connection.
Let's hope Meringue can find James's father's details from the Marriage Cert and we can maybe tie it all together.
Looby

[Forfarian]

Meringue, if all else fails you can always send away for your own copy of that 1858 marriage certificate. It will cost you (I think) £9.25 but you might prefer that to an uncertain wait for your contact!

[Meringue]

Wow! Thanks everyone for taking such an interest. I have tons of information about James and his family from the time he marries in Swansea, but 0 the Scottish side. I researched possible parents for him in Banffshire, but their sons called James were still with them on the 1861 census when my James was in Swansea.  However, Looby's family is very interesting.  I have a farm-labouring James from the age of 10 in the Inveravon area in the 1841 and 1851 census who is not with his family.  The latter one is at Rechlerich Farm, which was on the Ballindalloch estate. My dad's elderly cousin told me that James was in Ballindalloch before he went to Swansea, and that his family were 'a nasty, cruel bunch', but didn't expand on this, so he could have been made to make his own way in the world from the age of 10.  This is a fantastic new lead.  Thank you all so much for your help.  I'll let you know when I get the marriage certificate! 

[Meringue]

I got the marriage certificate this morning (decided to buy it) and the only helpful information is that James Stuart's father was John Stuart and he was a joiner.  This would fit with Looby's family, so I think it's worth looking into that lead further.  If anyone has any useful information on them, I'd be very grateful.

Many thanks

[CaroleW]

The 1841 for the John & Grace Stuart in earlier reply shows John's occ as "merchant" but in 1851 he is a carpenter which looks very promising indeed

1851

All b Kirkmichael Banffshire - address Lyngarie

John Stuart  50 carpenter
Grace   48
Ann  24
Alexander  20
William  13
Charles   10
Robert   7
Daniel   5
Peter   2
Kirkmichael ED 5 Page 2 Line 6

1841 - address Lyngary

John Stuart  40 merchant
Grace   35
William    10
John 8
Donald  6
Alexander 3
Charles  3 Months
Kirkmichael ED 5 Page 2 Line 710

[CaroleW]

1861 for Kirkmichael - address Lyngarrie - all b Kirkmichael
 
John Stuart  65 general carpenter
Grace  59
Charles  20
Daniel  15
Peter 12
Ann  34
Grace Fraser  10 grandchild
Kirkmichael ED 3 Page 3 Line 2

As Grace died after 1855 - her death cert will give her parents names and mothers maiden name

If her parents were James & Mary McPherson - then the 1841 entry for James would link him to John & Grace

Mary's maiden name may possibly have been McGregor if this baptism is one of theirs

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XB38-2BX

[Meringue]

Gosh Carole, thank you so much for that.  It was really, really kind of you to provide all that information for me.  I'm now intrigued as to why James left the family so early and hope that my dad's cousin's contact might have something....if/when I ever get her phone number, of course.  This is the one remaining branch of my dad's family that I haven't managed to trace back to the mid-1700s, but with the help you and Looby have given me, I will hopefully manage the same with this family.  I can't thank you enough.   

[CaroleW]

Daughter Ann isn't on the 1841 either and was a similar age to James so was probably also sent out to work - probably as a servant

[CaroleW]

John & Grace were still going strong in 1871

Lyngarin cottage

John Stewart  75 carpenter
Grace    68
Ann  40
Robert 26
Grace Fraser  19 grandchild
Kirkmichael ED 3 Page 3 Line 2