locating william & jane caldwell

[brylio]

Can anybody suggest how I can find the above siblings. William was born c 1859 Armagh Ireland his sister Jane was born 11/4/1863 Dalkeith Scotland. There parents being John Caldwell & Mary Bird. John was a sergeant in the 26th Regiment of Foot who was discharged to pension in 11/6/1860 in Edinburgh. Another sister Mary Elizabeth was born 17/10/1861 in Dalkeith Scotland. John died 1871 in Pontypool Wales. In the 1861 Scotland William is living with his parents in Dalkeith Scotland. In the 1871 census for Newport Wales no record of William or Jane is mentioned living with there mother Mary as she is recorded as a widow as John had died just prior to the census, only there sister Mary Elizabeth is mentioned. The 1881 census still does not mention them. I cannot find a death record for William or Jane from 1861 to 1871 in Scotland or England. 

[excel]

This is a tough one. I had a look yesterday but there wasn't anything obvious. Do you have the brothers and sisters of John Caldwell and Mary Bird to see if they could be living with them?

[brylio]

I have John Caldwell siblings as -William Caldwell b1821 in Paisley d 1886 in Edinburgh, Margaret Caldwell b 1819 in Paisley. I do not have any other info on Margaret. The family of William is - William 1864, Ella 1865-1923, John 1866, Horace 1868, George 1868, Charles 1870, Alfred 1871, David 1875, Victor 1877, Maggie 1880. All born in Edinburgh. In my grandmothers photos there is a photo of Ella Caldwell as it appears she was corresponding to Mary Elizabeth Caldwell in Australia, also there is another photo of a gentleman with no name attached. Is it possible to track this family down in Edinburgh as there must be a connection due to the correspondence, and is it possible to get anything from the photo studio name of the two photos I have( Stuart & Whinfield Newcastle on Tyne)

[jennywren001]

Hi,
From Freecen on the 51 census the Caldwells look like they have already moved from Paisley to Edinburgh.  In addition to father William age 54 and son William age 20 there is a daugher Mary showing age 17. The family are living at 27 Carrubbers Close. Is John in the service by then?

I think they can also be seen in 41 living St Georges Street, Paisley but still no sign of John.
Jen

[brylio]

John Caldwell joined the 26th Foot Regiment 31/5/1839 at the age of 18 according to his service record in Glasgow and discharged 1860 after 21 years service.

[jennywren001]

A couple of things...brother William - the lithographer - lives on until at least 1901 when he is showing as retired but not dead

Have you seen the death certificates showing at SP for the William Caldwell born 1859 died 1867 or the two for the Jane Caldwells born 1863 died before 1871.

Out of curiosity where did John and Mary marry?
Jen

[jennywren001]

Now this has to make you smile - while looking for Mary Bird I found one living with the Herons

[brylio]

John & Mary married 3/12/1856 Brompton Kent. What dose SP stand for as I have not seen the certificates you mention. 

[jennywren001]

Sorry - SP is Scotland's People. I'm not saying these people are who you are looking for just that they match the birth dates and death range. There is an excellent thread here on Rootschat to help with searching at Scotland's People:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=562668.0
Jen