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Re: Raynham & Arson at Buxhall Mill (1815)
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 09 June 13 21:07 BST (UK) »
Hi Diddy,

Thanks for the info.  If JR died in Sept 1814 it cant have been much after his acquittal (where did you find record of that?), and he can't have been that old (if he married in 1811).  My understanding is that the new mill was built by/for Isaac Clover who had acquired the mill site in 1814.  May be that is not accurate and that the new mill was built by/for JR?

All very interesting....

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Re: Raynham & Arson at Buxhall Mill (1815)
« Reply #10 on: Monday 10 June 13 16:03 BST (UK) »
just used different search on newspapers online & found:

Suffolk Assizes —No true bill was found against Rainham of Buxhall, charged with having maliciously set fire to his mill, with intent to defraud the Norwich Union Fire Office.
Cambridge Chronicle and Journal - Friday 12 August 1814

see also spelling of name. had looked at several on burial index but...

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Re: Raynham & Arson at Buxhall Mill (1815)
« Reply #11 on: Monday 10 June 13 16:14 BST (UK) »
have reread the newspaper article about sale which first appears 31 aug 1814 - think I misread. the sale says dwelling.....as occupied by mr john Raynham. next sale:  furniture etc....... late of mr John Raynham. deed of assignment left for signitures at Mr Raynhams, Rattlesden.  so i don't think he died 1814.  late of not the late mr R...

sorry for misdirecting you!
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Re: Raynham & Arson at Buxhall Mill (1815)
« Reply #12 on: Monday 10 June 13 18:25 BST (UK) »
maybe our John:

John Raynham
Christening 02 Jan 1790, Rattlesden
Birth      24 Aug 1789
Father   Samual Raynham
Mother  Sarah Shipp Raynham

on the creditors notice I found dated Nov 1814, john signed over all his personal estate & effects to a Mr Samuel raynham

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Re: Raynham & Arson at Buxhall Mill (1815)
« Reply #13 on: Monday 10 June 13 18:37 BST (UK) »
that samuel may have been his brother.  family search has:

marriage:
Samuel Raynham = Sarah Shipp  4/6/1789 Rattlesden

children:
John 24/8/1789   born
Elizabeth  20/5/1792  chr
Samuel    8/2/1793  chr
Sarah      1/4/1800  born

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Re: Raynham & Arson at Buxhall Mill (1815)
« Reply #14 on: Monday 10 June 13 20:18 BST (UK) »
wikipaedia article on the mill has a reference to a newspaper article ( not available online) about the fire:

Colchester Gazette 16/7/1814 p 194-195

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Re: Raynham & Arson at Buxhall Mill (1815)
« Reply #15 on: Monday 10 June 13 20:24 BST (UK) »
just realised - John married Sarah Cooper from Buxhall - wonder whether she was a relation to the miller Coopers?

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Re: Raynham & Arson at Buxhall Mill (1815)
« Reply #16 on: Monday 10 June 13 20:32 BST (UK) »
I think you're right.  And Ebenezer Cooper (father-in-law?) was going bust in 1811 & 1816.  Maybe that is why NU thought arson was behind it?
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Re: Raynham & Arson at Buxhall Mill (1815)
« Reply #17 on: Monday 10 June 13 21:17 BST (UK) »
cosford database has a brother of Sarah cooper as === Isaac Cooper 1787 - 1852 Farmer.... presumably the miller  married 1814 Rattlesden

parents Joseph Cooper & Mary Grimwood

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