John Abbney Missing in 1841 & 1851.

[DavidJP]

Hi all,

I am helping my godmother with her family history & we are unable to find her ancestor John Abbney in either the 1841 or 1851 Census.

John Abbney (1783-1861) was a Tailor by trade & married Mary Miller (1779-1857) on 14th September 1809 in Cardington Bedfordshire & they had 5 children who were:

Sarah (1811-1869) Never married.
William (1814-1891) Never married.
Thomas (1815-1891) Married Ann Peers in 1840.
George (1818-1892) Married Elizabeth Hulatt in 1844.
Joseph (1819/20-1900) Never married.

In 1841 (HO107/9/3/5/4) Mary Abbney is with children Sarah, William, George & Joseph in Cardington, Bedfordshire. Thomas is with wife Ann (HO107/9/3/15/24) also in Cardington. However, there is absolutely no sign of John at all!

In 1851 John is again missing, as is wife Mary & children Sarah, William & Joseph. Thomas (HO107/1752/265/25) is with wife Ann & three children in Cardington. Son George (HO107/1752/300/18) is with wife Elizabeth, a child & a servant in Fenlake, Bedfordshire. But no sign of the rest of the family!

John Abbney was buried in Cardington on 20th January 1861 aged 78 & Mary was buried in Cardington 10th December 1857 aged 78.

The Abbney's have variously been mis-transcribed as Abney/Abbny/Albney & Abbury.

John Abbney was born in Cardington, but where Mary was born, we don't yet know as the 1841 just shows her as being born out of county.

Can anyone help find John in 1841 & John, Mary & the three children in 1851?

Many thanks in advance.

Kind regards

David

[giggsycat]

Hi David

Different age for John, but could this be the family in 1851?

1851 census, Cardington Bedfordshire
HO107/1752/262 p 19
JOHN   ABBNEY 63 Head Tailor b Fenlake Bedfordshire
MARY ABBNEY 68 wife Tailors wife b Grantham Lincolnshire
WILLIAM ABBNEY 38 son tailor b Cardington Bedfordshire
JOSEPH ABBNEY 32 son Tailor b Cardington

[bedfordshire boy]

The 1809 marriage entry shows both were otp.

A census was taken in Cardington on 1 Jan 1782. There were no Abbneys or Millers living in the parish

[DavidJP]

Hi giggsycat,

Many thanks for that, very much appreciated indeed!

That's definately them, minus Sarah tho. Where did you find that, as they still aren't showing up on Ancestry!

Many thanks again.

Kind regards

David

[lizdb]

Looks as though you have found them

A tip - it looks very much as if you have copied and pasted this from another site, which breaches copyright.

We need to type out the info ourselves like this (it is a lot clearer too)

Cardington
John Abbney 65 tailor bn Fenlake
Mary 68 tailors wife bn Lincolnshire Grantham
William 38 son tailor bn Cardington
Joseph 32 ".  ".    "

Ancestry has indexed them Ablney and his birthplace as Feulak

[DavidJP]

Hi Bedfordshire boy,

Many thanks for the marriage & census info, much appreciated.

Kind regards

David

[DavidJP]

Hi Lizdb,

Many thanks for that, much appreciated.

Surname & birthplace mis-transcribed, good grief, no wonder we couldn't find them! Arrrghh!!

That just leaves John missing in 1841 & daughter Sarah missing in 1851.

Many thanks again.

Kind regards

David

[keyboard86]

Hi original is terrible, but a possible 1841 for John?

John Abney 80
John Abney 53
Residing at Fenlake, Cardington
Census ref HO107/9/ 6/4 / 13

Keyboard86

[DavidJP]

Hi Keyboard86,

Many thanks for that indeed, very much appreciated.

I think that you could well be right, there was a John Abbney buried at Cardington on 17th October 1843 aged 81 of Fenlake. This could well be John's father.

Many thanks again.

Kind regards

David