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Elizabeth Moore - How do I know if it is her?
« on: Wednesday 16 April 14 06:37 BST (UK) »
Hi everyone

It is some time since I have been here so I hope I havent jumped into an incorrect area - again...

My great grandmother, Elizabeth Moore, was married in 1878 to my great grandfather, William Thomas.  Her age was recorded as 22 but maybe she was actually 26.  I have put details of their marriage on the Cornwall OPC.

I have plenty of information on my great grandfather now and am pretty certain my records for him are correct.  However, Elizabeth is proving difficult so I'm not really sure only hopeful that I now have the correct one.

I am thinking she is Elizabeth Ann Moore, born in Tywardreath on 1 May 1852.  Father was William Moore and mother Betsy Moore, formerly Harris.

Elizabeth and William's marriage certificate indicates that a Charles and Mary William were witnesses at their wedding.  In an 1861 England Census there is a record, very pale, of an Elizabeth Ann Moore, age 9, with mother, Betsey Moore, Tywardreath.  It also mentions brothers John and Richard and an older sister, Mary Jane, who may be the Mary Moore that married Charles Williams in 1869.  I havent sent for that record yet - maybe I should have thought to do that much earlier.

An 1871 England Census records an Elizabeth Moore, born in Tywardreath, working in St Blazely as a servant.  I do know that 'our' Elizabeth eventually went on to manage boarding houses.

Elizabeth married William in 1878.  Their first child was born in Bodmin Gaol in 1879 as they both did 3 months hard labour for stealing that year - hence all the secrets and name changes possibly.

I'm wondering therefore if I have the correct one - was she born Elizabeth Ann Moore - married as Elizabeth Moore to William Thomas - and then eventually she died as Elizabeth Ellen Thomas in South Australia - as she was still keeping secrets.

Is this the best I can do - or what can I do better?   :-\

Thank you everyone

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Re: Elizabeth Moore - How do I know if it is her?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 16 April 14 08:55 BST (UK) »
Who does she name as her father on her marriage cert? And his occupation?
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Elizabeth Moore - How do I know if it is her?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 16 April 14 10:50 BST (UK) »
This also seems to be about the same person and others have already found some info there.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=615093.msg4639192#msg4639192


OOps sorry,wrong side of the family  :-[
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Re: Elizabeth Moore - How do I know if it is her?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 16 April 14 17:45 BST (UK) »
this would appear to be your couple on the 1881 census

1881 7 Court, Redruth RG11/2331 folio 16 pg 26
William Thomas head mar 24 tin miner b. Gwennap
Elizabeth wife 25 b. Redruth
Catherine Jane dau 1 b. Bodmin

Given that Elizabeth gave her place of birth as Redruth, why are looking at Tywardreath which is not near Redruth?

More likely this family in Redruth in 1861
Rose Row, Redruth RG9/1579 folio 151 pg 30
William Moor head mar 35 miner
Elizabeth wife 37
Anne sister 37 mine girl
May dau 9
Elizabeth dau 7
Alice dau 4
Nicholas son 2
all born Redruth

William remarried in march qtr 1867 Redruth vol 5c pg 343 to Mary Jane Sincock and is on the census in Lancashire in 1871 with Mary Jane and a mixture of Moore & Syncock children.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb


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Re: Elizabeth Moore - How do I know if it is her?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 16 April 14 18:37 BST (UK) »
birth reg
Elizabeth Moor dec qtr 1853 Redruth vol 5c pg 241

death reg for Elizabeth's mother
Elizabeth Moor 42 sep qtr 1866 Redruth vol 5c pg 151

Possible marriage
William Moore dec qtr 1850 Redruth vol 9 pg 312 with 2 Elizabeths on the same page
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Elizabeth Moore - How do I know if it is her?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 16 April 14 19:08 BST (UK) »
possible baptism for William in 1825

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JMT1-V29
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Elizabeth Moore - How do I know if it is her?
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 17 April 14 05:48 BST (UK) »
Hi lizdb:  Elizabeth's father was on the marriage cert as William Moore, and occupation was Tin Dresser.

Hi carol8353:  That link you put up related to the "Lord" side of my family - not the Moore side ?

Other responses:  I am still looking at and will respond.  Thank you everyone for your help so far.

Meryl

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Re: Elizabeth Moore - How do I know if it is her?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 18 April 14 09:56 BST (UK) »
map of the parishes in Cornwall to help

http://www.cornwall-opc.org/MAPS/parish_map.pdf
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb