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Re: George Ainslie - Death, Divorce or Desertion?
« Reply #27 on: Monday 31 March 14 20:13 BST (UK) »
Carol, your post, one ago, is where I think we are at  :)

With George Ainslie having died pre 1855, you are going to have to find alternative ways of confirming details. I think the 1841 census for him at Moat is really helpful in this respect. Also, the naming order of his first children's names (Scottish naming pattern when used provides lots of clues on paternal and maternal grandparents, see for example www.halmyre.abel.co.uk/Family/naming.htm). You have first born Margaret and then Janet born here. Not a science, just helpful  ;)

You also have very likely his father William at Moat mentioned in William Ainslie's Will & Testament entry in the 1830s.

Lots of helpful info there.

Regarding Margaret Oughton Ainslie, did she die after 1855 I wonder? If so, her death cert and that of husband William's if he also died after 1855 would help you in confirming their parents' names.

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Re: George Ainslie - Death, Divorce or Desertion?
« Reply #28 on: Monday 31 March 14 20:22 BST (UK) »
William and wife Margaret are at Moat for 1861 which is great news as it means they lived past 1855 and the start of official registration and those great and informative death registrations  ;D

William Ainslie 60 Farmer 2 Empllying 210 Acres 6 Labourer
Margret Ainslie 46
William Ainslie 26
Janet Ainslie 22
Rachel D Ainslie 13
John G Ainslie 11
Darina Ainslie 7
Eleanora Ainslie 9
...and 3 servants

Address: Moat, Lasswade

Hopefully, you should be able to confirm family connections back to George and Ann, if we are correct thinking that sisters married brothers.

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Re: George Ainslie - Death, Divorce or Desertion?
« Reply #29 on: Monday 31 March 14 20:26 BST (UK) »
According to that Family Tree on FS - William died 5th Nov 1860? (obviously not correct if he's on 1861 Census) and Margaret Ainslie nee Oughton died 3rd Apr 1864.



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Re: George Ainslie - Death, Divorce or Desertion?
« Reply #30 on: Monday 31 March 14 20:27 BST (UK) »
I am having a Wills & testament frenzy (always the case with farmers and all their land)  ;D

Two entries. Father William and son William? Death searches will help to establish:

William AINSLIE   5 April 1866. Farmer at Ploverhall latterly at the Moat near Roslin. INVENTORY   EDINBURGH SHERIFF COURT INVENTORIES   SC70/1/129...is this father?

William AINSLIE 6 May 1874. Farmer at the Moat near Roslin. INVENTORY   EDINBURGH SHERIFF COURT INVENTORIES   SC70/1/168   

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Re: George Ainslie - Death, Divorce or Desertion?
« Reply #31 on: Monday 31 March 14 20:34 BST (UK) »
William Ainslie snr is farming at Plover Hall on the 1841 Census-
AINSLIE       Wm       M       40       Farmer    
AINSLIE       Margt    F       25                           
AINSLIE       Wm       M       6                          
AINSLIE       Margt   F       4                   
AINSLIE       Janet   F       2                          
 ORMAND       Agnes   F       20       Female Servant               
    
 All born Midlothian.

       


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Re: George Ainslie - Death, Divorce or Desertion?
« Reply #32 on: Monday 31 March 14 20:36 BST (UK) »
Looby, there is a death for a Margaret Ainslie in 1864 in Lasswade. Likely one of the remaining poorly indexed entries (missing age and likely maiden name?). Ref. 691/00 0041.

However, there is a more helpful entry for I think husband William:

1865   William AINSLIE aged 65. Mother's maiden name WRIGHT (and there is our Janet Wright, wife of William, who we have as likely mother to George) in LASSWADE, MIDLOTHIAN    ref. 691/00 0092

To do with the Will & Testament entry in 1874, there is a death for a 38 yr old William Ainslie in 1872. Close fit to that age in the 1871 census entry in Moat. Years/dates showing in the Wills & Testament database on Scotlands Peoples do not match death dates. The settlement of Wills etc sometimes took place years later.

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PS: That 1841 census entry you posted is a good fit isn't it to what we have.
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Re: George Ainslie - Death, Divorce or Desertion?
« Reply #33 on: Monday 31 March 14 20:51 BST (UK) »
William Ainslie - who married Margaret Wilson Oughton apparently died around 1860 (George Ainslie's brother who married Ann Oughton).

His son William Ainslie born around 1834 - died 1872. 

They must be the two records you have found?
Johnston - New Zealand; Scotland
Brookes - New Zealand; England
Morris- Liverpool Lancs, UK; New Zealand
Hatter - Wiltshire UK; Otago New Zealand
Ainslie & Strachan - Midlothian, Scotland; New Zealand
Paull -St Agnes, St Columb Minor Parish Cornwall; South Africa; New Zealand
Gould & Reece- Stroud, Gloucestershire UK; New Zealand
Oakly - Australia, NZ; UK
Downes -UK; Australia; NZ
Kinghorn - Jamaica; England; Scotland
Murphy - County Kerry, Ireland; NZ

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Re: George Ainslie - Death, Divorce or Desertion?
« Reply #34 on: Monday 31 March 14 21:55 BST (UK) »
There isn't an 1860 death showing in Lasswade, any age, for a William Ainslie. The spelling may vary though.

Given we have a likely entry on the 1861 census and then a death in 1864, with mother's name showing as Wright, I would be inclined to look at that one first.... ::)
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Re: George Ainslie - Death, Divorce or Desertion?
« Reply #35 on: Tuesday 01 April 14 01:38 BST (UK) »
Hi Monica - you are quite correct.  I went back into the data and my dates just don't match up.  I will keep plugging at it- I think I am getting close:)
Johnston - New Zealand; Scotland
Brookes - New Zealand; England
Morris- Liverpool Lancs, UK; New Zealand
Hatter - Wiltshire UK; Otago New Zealand
Ainslie & Strachan - Midlothian, Scotland; New Zealand
Paull -St Agnes, St Columb Minor Parish Cornwall; South Africa; New Zealand
Gould & Reece- Stroud, Gloucestershire UK; New Zealand
Oakly - Australia, NZ; UK
Downes -UK; Australia; NZ
Kinghorn - Jamaica; England; Scotland
Murphy - County Kerry, Ireland; NZ