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Looking for parents of Emily Elizabeth Laws b 1847
« on: Saturday 04 January 14 16:25 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
I am looking for the family of Emily Elizabeth Laws b1847 Stanner married Henry Haddon 1871 in Hull.

Thanks.
Kirk, (Bassigham, Lincs)
Ringwood (Westwick, Norfolk)
Horner (East Halton, Lincs)
Eaman (Hull, Yorks)
Haddon (Hull, Yorks and Leverington, Cambs.)
Laws (Stanner, Wales)

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Re: Looking for parents of Emily Elizabeth Laws b 1847
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 04 January 14 22:56 GMT (UK) »
There is no one showing on the birth  index's under that name born Stanner Wales 1847

Clould she have been born under another name ? illegitimate perhaps.  :-\

What other information do you have on her that might help please
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Re: Looking for parents of Emily Elizabeth Laws b 1847
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 04 January 14 23:13 GMT (UK) »
The 1881 gives her place of birth as Stanner, Norfolk - are you certain she was born in Wales?
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Re: Looking for parents of Emily Elizabeth Laws b 1847
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 04 January 14 23:17 GMT (UK) »
The 1911 also gives her place of birth as Stanner, Norfolk! ;D

1901 census (RG13; Piece: 4504; Folio: 174; Page: 30) has her born in Yarmouth.
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Re: Looking for parents of Emily Elizabeth Laws b 1847
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 04 January 14 23:25 GMT (UK) »
Have you got her maiden name from one of the children's birth certificates? If not it could be that she was married previously and that Laws wasn't her maiden name. I cant see a birth of an Emily Laws or any trace of her before 1881.
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Re: Looking for parents of Emily Elizabeth Laws b 1847
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 04 January 14 23:26 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Looking for parents of Emily Elizabeth Laws b 1847
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 04 January 14 23:33 GMT (UK) »
A possible in 1871
RG10; Piece: 1618; Folio: 121; Page: 19  Norwich

James Laws   48     ag lab                Litcham, Norfolk
Mary A Laws   45                            Syderstone, Norfolk
Elizabeth Laws   24                             Stanhoe, Norfolk
Essebolla Laws   14                             South Creake, Norfolk
William Laws   12                             South Creake, Norfolk
Valentine Laws   8                               South Creake, Norfolk
Rebecca Laws   6                               South Creake, Norfolk
Amelia Eagleton   2 grand daughter        South Creake, Norfolk

You may have to get the marriage certificate to get her father's name.
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Re: Looking for parents of Emily Elizabeth Laws b 1847
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 05 January 14 10:07 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for your help.

It is possible she had been previously married and widowed, but as she was married to Henry Haddon when she was 24, it's probably unlikely. She gave birth to James Henry Haddon in 1872.
I only thought she had been born in Wales, as that was the only Stanner I could find.
Apparently Stanhoe, Kings Lynn, Norfolk, is pronounced Stanner. Interestingly there is  another family connection to the Kings Lynn, Grace Emma Ringwood b 1865 at West Winch. Although I have no direct connection at this stage.
I wonder why the 1901 census has her born in Yarmouth and the 1911 has her born in Stanner?
They are about 50 miles apart.
If the possible match found by 'groom' is correct, I assume she will not appear on the 1871 census with Henry Haddon in Hull? 
Is there some connection to Amelia Eagleton 2? or was she just an aunt?
Kirk, (Bassigham, Lincs)
Ringwood (Westwick, Norfolk)
Horner (East Halton, Lincs)
Eaman (Hull, Yorks)
Haddon (Hull, Yorks and Leverington, Cambs.)
Laws (Stanner, Wales)

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Re: Looking for parents of Emily Elizabeth Laws b 1847
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 05 January 14 12:00 GMT (UK) »
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as she was married to Henry Haddon when she was 24, it's probably unlikely.

Unlikely yes but certainly not impossible, I,ve known widows as young as 18

You cannot take anything written on the census's as gospel, until you have proved them yourself as  any seasoned historian will tell you, things were often wrong, most folk were illiterate, spoke with regional accents so the enumerator wrote down what he thought, also some folk had no idea exactly where they were born, so was often written down as the place they either thought or were living at that time.

I hope this goes some way to explaining  your doubts.
this information is Crown Copyright. from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk   London Hall, Thurston Stanley, Phillips, Ayrton, White, Morrish, Smith.    West Ham/Barking Saint,Briggs,   Essex  Barker,   Hampshire  Kill, Kent Spong,   U.S.A Earp, Scotland/Cumbria Templeton, Devon Morrish, Chudley