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Thomas Shaw, shoemaker, b. abt 1819, d. 1887
« on: Tuesday 24 June 14 08:38 BST (UK) »
Can anyone help me with this chap, please?

I can only find him on two census records and his pob is different on both.

In 1871, he's in Nuns Street, Derby and his pob is given as "Smithy Cotton, Derbys", and he's with wife Mary Ann (maiden name unknown) who was b. Worcester 1833, and daughters Alice b. 1864 Birmingham and Mary Ann b. 1870 in Derby.

In 1881, he's in Boyer Street, Derby and his pob is given as "Nook, Derbys", and he's still with same wife and youngest daughter.

I thought that if I could work out where Smithy Cotton and/or Nook were it might help me find him in the earlier census records.  And I also thought that "shoemaker" which is consistent as his occupation on both census records might help too, but it hasn't helped me so far :(

Any help very gratefully received.
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Re: Thomas Shaw, shoemaker, b. abt 1819, d. 1887
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 24 June 14 09:46 BST (UK) »
F/S has a Alice Emma Shaw Christened 7 Aug 1864, Kempsey, Worcestershire to a THOMAS/MARY

The only Birth Reg I can find that seems to match is not Alice Emma though;
Alice Elizabeth SHAW, Sept 1864, Birmingham, 6d 279
This Cert might be worth looking into.
 

There is a Thomas SHAW Christened 7 February 1819, Smisby, Derbyshire to JOHN/CATHERINE and another same place 29 March 1819, to JAMES/JUDY
Could Smisby be Smithy Cotton?

Looking still :)
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Re: Thomas Shaw, shoemaker, b. abt 1819, d. 1887
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 24 June 14 09:53 BST (UK) »
1841 Census
Duffield, Derbyshire
HO107/180/4/Duffield
In the Atkins Household (John Atkins is a Cordwainer)
Thomas SHAW, 22 (1819), Occp Cordwainer (Shoemaker), born in County
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: Thomas Shaw, shoemaker, b. abt 1819, d. 1887
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 24 June 14 10:07 BST (UK) »
Possibly him Lodging in Birmingham, Warwickshire in 1861;
Thomas SHAW, age 35, born 1826 Pistin Hills, Derbyshire
Unm, Occp Shoemaker
RG9/2138/108/5
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)


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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Thomas Shaw, shoemaker, b. abt 1819, d. 1887
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 24 June 14 10:35 BST (UK) »
This looks like him in 1851 - living at Nook, Smedley, Leicestershire (place on census page looks like Smisby not Smedley) - ref. HO107 - 2084 - 259 - 21 - mistranscribed as Sham, not Shaw.
 
Living with widowed mother Judith Shaw and 2 younger sisters.   He is a cordwainer, 32, and he and his siblings all shown born Nook, Derbyshire.   So looks like he is the 2nd baptism in 1819, son of James/Judy found by trish1120.

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Re: Thomas Shaw, shoemaker, b. abt 1819, d. 1887
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 24 June 14 10:57 BST (UK) »
Excellent work Annette :) ;D
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Re: Thomas Shaw, shoemaker, b. abt 1819, d. 1887
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 24 June 14 11:12 BST (UK) »
1841 Census
Wicket Nook,
Smisby, Derbyshire
HO107/192/7/Smisby
James SHAW, 65, Ag Lab
Indiah (image is Judiah/Judith?), 55
Sylvian, 20
Mary Ann, 15
Susannah, 15
Sarah, 13
All born in County

Next to Pis* Hill House, a Farm.
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Re: Thomas Shaw, shoemaker, b. abt 1819, d. 1887
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 24 June 14 11:31 BST (UK) »
Possible? Same page. Transcribed as both on scan

Marriages Dec 1862
Shaw    Thomas         Birmingham    6d   23    
Wakeling    Mary Ann         Birmingham    6d   23    
Wakelins    Mary Ann         Birmingham    6d   23

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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland