Author Topic: Please help to find where George BALDWIN is buried (1854) - Thorpe Hamlet ?  (Read 5009 times)

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I hope someone can please help to find where my maternal GGG Grandfather is buried.

I am on a bit of a emotional roller coaster ride at present. I have been searching for years (along with my cousins) to find the death date and place of my maternal GGG Grandfather. I found online last night some transcribed memoirs on the Thorpe Norwich site, written by my GG Grandfather Jesse BALDWIN which I never knew existed. I am endeavoring to find out who the person was that transcribed the letter as I would say they are a direct relative of mine. In  this partially transcribed letter, it states where and when his father died.

George BALDWIN was killed on Jan 5 1854 in a horrific train smash in Thetford. He was a stoker on one of the trains that collided with another. I have now read many articles about the accident in newspapers from the time along with the rather graphic detail of his death, inquest etc.

At the time of Georges death, Jesse writes his father was working Eastern Counties railway - now altered to the Great Eastern Railway. Further into the memoir he says he was living in at 12 Railway cottage Thorpe Hamlet.

Jesse writes that his father was brought home in a coffin, so I know that after the accident he was brought home to "Theoulds Buildings near Foundry Bridge, Norwich at the house next to the river in the first row"

However, my quandary is I cannot find where George BALDWIN is buried.

George BALDWIN
Birth 19 July 1812 in Westminster St Margaret, England.
Death 7 Jan 1854 Thetford Norfolk, Vol: 4b, page 277.

Wife of George
Sarah Ann Ellis

Birth 26 Sept 1813 in Middlesex England
Death Apr 1896 in Norfolk, England.

Son and my GG Grandfather:

Jesse BALDWIN

Birth 7 November 1849 in 16 Spring Place, South Lambeth England
Death Apr 1919 in Yarmouth, Norfolk, England.
 
Any information on George would be greatly appreciated.

Kind regards
Tern

Families
BEDFORD - Selby/Cawood Yorkshire - Brunswick, Victoria Australia
MALCOLM - Fife,  Scotland, Hamilton Victoria Australia
OSBORN/BEDFORD - Horncastle, Lincolnshire England - Victoria Australia
ROCHE - N. Ireland, Belfast
LEWIS  - Swansea,  Wales
SHEALES - Winterton, Norfolk
BALDWIN - London, Rudham Vaux, Sprowston, South Lambert England
GEEN -  Devonshire England
GEORGE - Great Yarmouth England
POINTER - Sprowston, Norfolk
ALLEN - Norfolk
ELLIS - Norfolk and Middlesex
PAWSON - Norfolk

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Hi

Just been reading the newspaper articles and checked freeBMD , you may want to alter the year of death to 1854  ;) , to aid others searching.

claire
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G'day Clair

You are so right, sorry George BALDWIN's death was 1854. Thank you for clarifying.

Cheers
Tern

Families
BEDFORD - Selby/Cawood Yorkshire - Brunswick, Victoria Australia
MALCOLM - Fife,  Scotland, Hamilton Victoria Australia
OSBORN/BEDFORD - Horncastle, Lincolnshire England - Victoria Australia
ROCHE - N. Ireland, Belfast
LEWIS  - Swansea,  Wales
SHEALES - Winterton, Norfolk
BALDWIN - London, Rudham Vaux, Sprowston, South Lambert England
GEEN -  Devonshire England
GEORGE - Great Yarmouth England
POINTER - Sprowston, Norfolk
ALLEN - Norfolk
ELLIS - Norfolk and Middlesex
PAWSON - Norfolk

Offline trish1120

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According to Familysearch.Org he was Buried 11 January 1854, Norfolk, no place given.
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Thanks Trish for the date, appreciate your time.

 I have been looking for him for most of today, very elusive.

Will keep searching.

Cheers
tern
Families
BEDFORD - Selby/Cawood Yorkshire - Brunswick, Victoria Australia
MALCOLM - Fife,  Scotland, Hamilton Victoria Australia
OSBORN/BEDFORD - Horncastle, Lincolnshire England - Victoria Australia
ROCHE - N. Ireland, Belfast
LEWIS  - Swansea,  Wales
SHEALES - Winterton, Norfolk
BALDWIN - London, Rudham Vaux, Sprowston, South Lambert England
GEEN -  Devonshire England
GEORGE - Great Yarmouth England
POINTER - Sprowston, Norfolk
ALLEN - Norfolk
ELLIS - Norfolk and Middlesex
PAWSON - Norfolk

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There is a George Baldwin buried at Norwich St Peters Per Mountergate On 11 Jan 1854 age 36 !

See here

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0za1/

Yokel

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G'day Yokel

Thanks for the posting however I don't think it is him. There does not appear to be any association with this area of Norfolk with him or his family the family plus George was 41 when he died.

I wont discount it though and will look into it further.

Kind regards
Tern
Families
BEDFORD - Selby/Cawood Yorkshire - Brunswick, Victoria Australia
MALCOLM - Fife,  Scotland, Hamilton Victoria Australia
OSBORN/BEDFORD - Horncastle, Lincolnshire England - Victoria Australia
ROCHE - N. Ireland, Belfast
LEWIS  - Swansea,  Wales
SHEALES - Winterton, Norfolk
BALDWIN - London, Rudham Vaux, Sprowston, South Lambert England
GEEN -  Devonshire England
GEORGE - Great Yarmouth England
POINTER - Sprowston, Norfolk
ALLEN - Norfolk
ELLIS - Norfolk and Middlesex
PAWSON - Norfolk

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Hello Tern,

Don't want to throw a spanner in the works, but there were two baptisms in Thorpe Hamlet by a George and Sarah Ann Baldwin after the date you gave of George's death.

First one was in November 1854 -
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12865-129155-42?cc=1416598&wc=M66Y-YMQ:30332701,29359202,30332702

and the second was a Jesse, baptised July 1856 -
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12865-127814-34?cc=1416598&wc=M66Y-YMQ:30332701,29359202,30332702

Yorkslass
Norris, London 1800's
Bird, Gt Yarmouth 1800's
Smowton, Yarmouth/Norwich 1770
Dublack, Yarmouth
Binks, Essex
Wilcock, Lancashire
Kettlewell, Yorkshire

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Jesse writes that his father was brought home in a coffin, so I know that after the accident he was brought home to "Theoulds Buildings near Foundry Bridge, Norwich at the house next to the river in the first row"

This area of Norwich was in the St Peters registration District

yokel