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Re: Regan family who lived in Coolsara/Inniscairn/Desertmartin
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 16 August 14 19:27 BST (UK) »
___ Regan m. Ellen Otterson (d.1889)
Letters of Administration of the personal estate of Ellen Regan late of Coolsara County Londonderry Widow who died 27 February 1889 at same place were granted at Londonderry to John Otterson of Coolsara Farmer the Brother.
Letters of Administration of the personal estate of John Otterson late of Coolsara County Londonderry Labourer who died 2 October 1891 at same place were granted at Londonderry to Charles Otterson of Coolsara Farmer the Brother.
Letters of Administration de bonis non of the personal estate of John Otterson late of Coolsara County Londonderry Labourer who died 2 October 1891 were granted at Londonderry to James Henry of Ballynahone in said County Farmer nomince of the Court. (Former grant 30 March 1894)
The Will of Charles Otterson late of Coolsara County Londonderry Labourer who died 21 December 1893 at same place was proved at Londonderry by James Henry of Ballynahone in said County Farmer the sole Executor.

James Regan (c1836-aft.1901) m. Nancy/Ann/Annie Hagan (c1849-aft.1901)
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Inniscairn/Coolsaragh/1544432
1.   Patrick (1864)
birth: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F5Y7-DVD
baptism: April 22, 1864- Patrick- James Regan & Nancy Hagan. James Otterson, Alice Otterson

2.   Margaret (1866)
birth: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FPYY-D62
baptism: June 18 1866- Margaret- Jas. Regnin? & Nancy Hagan- Coolsara. Francis Hagan, Betty Otterson

3.   Bessie (1869)
birth: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FPDY-XQ7
baptism: Feb 28 1868- Bessie- James O'Regan & Ann O'Hagan

4.   Mary Ann (1871-aft.1901)
birth: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F5M9-FLK
baptism: Nov 26 1871- Mary Ann- James O'Regan & Ann O'Hagan- Brackalislea. Michael McKenna, Matilda McKenna
? marriage: 23 Apr 1902 Patrick Conlon and Mary O'Regan

5.   Edward (1874)
birth: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F5C9-27P
baptism: June 21 1874- Edward- James Regan & Nancy O'Hagan- Coolcarn. Isabella McGuigan     none

6.   Rose (1877 Coolcalm)
birth: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGNP-97G
baptism: July 1 1877- Rose- James O'Regan? & Ann O'Hagan- Coolcarn. Denis Kelly, Ellen Kelly

7.   Francis (1880 Longfield)
birth: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FR4T-Z43
birth: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGJ3-FBP
baptism: April 3 1880- Francis- James Regan & Nancy O'Hagan- Longfield. James Henry, Catherine Donnelly

8.   Agnes (c1886-aft.1901)

Also- nephew James O’Regan (c1896 Co.Derry) with the family in 1901 buit 'nephew' sometimes means grandson so be careful not to assume relationship just yet


James Regan (c1851/1841-1927) m. Mary Bradley (c1852/1843-aft.1911)
9 Jan 1873 James O'Regan and Mary Bradley
Regan James of Iniscarn Moneymore county Londonderry farmer died 17 February 1927 Administration Londonderry 22 November to Elizabeth Regan spinster. Effects £51.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Inniscairn/Inniscairn/1544305/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Iniscarn/Iniscarn/610449/
1.   Mary (c1877/1874-aft.1911)
2.   Elizabeth/Lizzie (c1884/1881-aft.1927)
3.   Charles (c1888/1885-aft.1911)
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Re: Regan family who lived in Coolsara/Inniscairn/Desertmartin
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 16 August 14 19:27 BST (UK) »
I think that Bessie (born 1869), daughter of James Regan & Nancy Hagan, is the Bessie Regan who married John McBride-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Inniscairn/Brackalislea/1544380
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Iniscarn/Brackaghlislea/610510

Valuation Revision Books (www.proni.gov.uk) will show if Bessie McBride stayed in the O'Hagan place.

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Re: Regan family who lived in Coolsara/Inniscairn/Desertmartin
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 16 August 14 19:57 BST (UK) »
Found James & Nancy Regan in 1911 census- says 8 children (4 living) which ties into list of children I posted earlier.
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Desertmartin/Rosgarran/613337
1.   Patrick (1864-1910) m. Mary Ann Donnelly. Children: John, Patrick, James, Edward, Francis, Lewis, Denis, Joseph, & 3 others (d.bef.1911).
Administration of the Estate of Patrick Regan late of Rocktown County Londonderry Farmer who died 22 April 1910 granted at Londonderry to Mary Ann Regan the Widow.
2.   Margaret (1866)
3.   Bessie (1869) m. John McBride
4.   Mary Ann (1871-aft.1901)
5.   Edward (1874)
6.   Rose (1877 Coolcalm)
7.   Francis (1880 Longfield)
8.   Agnes (c1886) 1911- with parents

Also a nephew Patrick O'Regan (born c1894) who I think is this Patrick in 1901- which happily gets you more relatives!
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Rocktown/Rocktown/1542996

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Re: Regan family who lived in Coolsara/Inniscairn/Desertmartin
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 16 August 14 20:17 BST (UK) »
Now to wind up some names mentioned in your original post-

I think these are children of James Regan & Nancy O'Hagan (mentioned above):
Patrick Regan (1864?)
Elizabeth “Bessie” Regan (1865) m.(1901) John McBride
Francis “Frank” Regan (1880?)
Minnie Regan (Mary?)

Cissie Regan- Cissie can be a nickname (sister) so difficult to pin down

James Regan
Robert “Bobby” Regan

No marriage (or birth) in Co. Derry for a Josephine Regan found-
Josephine “Josie” Regan m. ___ O’Dogherty

These 2 quite puzzling as I can find no births in Co.Derry that fit-
Alfred Regan
Ernest “Ernie” Regan

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Re: Regan family who lived in Coolsara/Inniscairn/Desertmartin
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 16 August 14 20:34 BST (UK) »
Searching Emerald Ancestors database (free) shows some marriages which are of interest (details from other sources added)-

all Magherafelt district-
1834   Charles ? to Bridget Regan
1834   Edward Regan to Mary ?
1849   John ? to Rose Regan
1852 Patrick Regan to Mary ?
1862 Francis Regan to Mary ?
1868 Michael Regan to Anne Meehan https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGZF-XS8
1869 Michael Regan to Mary Convery    https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGZ8-3W3
1885 John Regan to Mary Anne Hagan?
1888 Peter Mullan to Mary Regan
1891 John ? to May Regan
1892 William Regan to Mary
1901 John McBride to Elizabeth Regan
1903 Elizabeth Ann Regan to Thomas H. ?
1909 Patrick ? to Mary Regan
1911 Matthew Regan to Annie ?
1918 Joseph ? to Ellen Regan
1919 John Regan to Bridget ?
1920 John ? to Annie Regan
1922   Felix ? to Mary Regan
1923   Thomas Joseph ? to Mary Regan
1923   John Regan to Rose ?
1929   Denis Regan to Mary ?
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Re: Regan family who lived in Coolsara/Inniscairn/Desertmartin
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 16 August 14 21:22 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much aghadowey, you have given me so much to go and look at.

I use ancestry, roots ireland and emerald ancesters. I notice you found alot on family search, maybe I should try using this more for reference but have found that I dont normally find much info on it, probably me not searching correctly.

I have a full membership on emerald ancesters so will have a good look at the full details.

Looks like I'll be starting this section of the tree a fresh, knew it didn't add up but its difficult when you are being given information by relatives that they claim is correct not to believe what they are saying and couldn't make the break thru's needed to prove it was wrong.

Thank you so much, know exactly what I am spending all day tomorrow doing.....

Heather

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Re: Regan family who lived in Coolsara/Inniscairn/Desertmartin
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 16 August 14 21:26 BST (UK) »
The Patrick Regan you mentioned

1.   Patrick (1864-1910) m. Mary Ann Donnelly. Children: John, Patrick, James, Edward, Francis, Lewis, Denis, Joseph, & 3 others (d.bef.1911).
Administration of the Estate of Patrick Regan late of Rocktown County Londonderry Farmer who died 22 April 1910 granted at Londonderry to Mary Ann Regan the Widow.

he was our great grandfather, with John being our grandfather, my mother in laws father.

Thanks again

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Re: Regan family who lived in Coolsara/Inniscairn/Desertmartin
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 17 August 14 21:52 BST (UK) »
Just checked 1831 census for 'Regan' in Co. Londonderry and there are some which will be of interest. Unfortunately it will only list head of households and number of males & females but at least it shows townlands.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/
select 1831 for the year, put in Regan as surname, select Londonderry as county then click 'search' button.

thanks to conahy calling for noticing typo with census year  :-[
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Re: Regan family who lived in Coolsara/Inniscairn/Desertmartin
« Reply #17 on: Monday 18 August 14 10:03 BST (UK) »
thank s once again aghadowey

you've been so helpful. Just trying to lay it all out in a new section of the tree to see how they all fit in and how Edward and James are related....

Heather