Teapot Query

[Felin]

I have a photo of a family teapot with "John and Mary Coats 1780"

My Grandmother used to say they had missed an "e" off Coats making it Coates.

This teapot is supposed to have come down the female side of our family but I am back to 14th Centuary without finding "Coates" from Durham

Family details are
Mother                          Alice Begent b 19 Jul 1904 Bucks
Gmother                       Alice Scrafton b 13 Dec 1878 Norton
GGmother                     Alice Hodgson b 18 Aug 18848 Langleydale
GGGmother                   Anne Hodgson b15 Aug 1820 Softley
GGGGmother                 Alice Parkin      b 1793 Lynesack
GGGGGmother               Elizabeth Mayor b 1737 Hamsterley

I would like to fit the John & Mary Coat(e)s into my family tree if possible and any leads would be most helpful.

[Ecneps]

Hi Felin,

How lovely to have such a family heirloom, but as you probably realise, if it came down through the generations the origins could have been almost anywhere, from any female branch or even on one of the male branches, family stories are a little unreliable (in mine anyway)

I suppose the best thing to do would be to trace a John Coat(e)s/Mary marriage in 1780 as it was probably a wedding gift.

Have you checked for a marriage on familysearchlabs?
http://www.rootschat.com/links/05bf/

Barbara 

[Ecneps]

There is a marriage of a John COATS to Mary PARKIN 6 Dec 1777 on the Hamsterley marriage transcriptions site:
http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/Transcriptions/DUR/HAM.html

I expect that on the same page, the marriage 10 Jan 1811 - Edward Hodgson to Alice Parkin was for your GGGGparents mentioned below, so possibly that's the link

Barbara

[Felin]

Barbara
Thanks a million - that ties in perfectly with my tree - what a great site with all those marriages in Hamsterely where most of my family came from. I will be looking at it for some time
Do you know of an Isabel(la) Hird marrying a George Scrafton on 4 Sep 1780 in Kirky Ravensworth as your surname list includes Hird
Ralph

[Ecneps]

Glad to help, all you have to do now is find the link between Alice and Mary 

My husband's Hird family are from Arkengarthdale, have to go offline now but will have a look later to see if there are any links, I saw your other posting about them and will get back to it.

Kind regards,
Barbara
 

[alpinecottage]

Felin,

 Have you missed out a link between Elizabeth Mayor born 1737 and Alice Parkin born 1793 namely Mary Parkin born 1760-ish?  Otherwise Elizabeth was 56 when Alice was born!!!!

[mim]

Hi,

Re Alice Hodgson bn 1820 Softley - on the 1851 census there is a Jonathan Coates/16/Servant/bn Cockfield with the Hodgson family at Softley.

Can send full census details if needed.

mim

Census Information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

[Felin]

Alpine cottage - thanks I will look into this discrepancy further.

Mim - Thanks for the offer but I think Barbara has found the missing link, it appears that Christopher Parkin m Elizabeth Mayor on the same day and same church as his sister Mary Parkin m John Coates  ie 6 Dec 1777 - the teapot may have celebrated a birth of a child, or some other joint event.

Ralph

[mim]

Hi,

Sorry I got the wrong name (Alice instead of Anne) for the person born in 1820 a Softley but it is your Hodgson family in 1851. They have a son named Christopher Parkin Hodgson but you probably know all of this already! 

mim