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Weybread Parish Registers
« on: Monday 24 March 14 19:08 GMT (UK) »
Can anyone clarify why there are (apparently) no registers for Weybread before 1687?

I have seen on the GENUKI site that the "church was founded in 1687" and notice that this is the earliest date for the registers of Weybread on the familysearch site, and also in the parish list of the Suffolk Record Office.

There must have been a church there before this! I have relations who were definitely living there in the 1670s ..... as they appear on the Hearth Tax Returns.

Cheers ???

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Re: Weybread Parish Registers
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 26 March 14 17:03 GMT (UK) »
It is possible the PRs could have perished in a fire. Might be worth contacting the Suffolk Record Office?

Simon has the church on his Suffolk website, www.suffolkchurches.co.uk/weybread.htm

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SUFFOLK - Pendle, Stygall, Pipe, Fruer, Bridges, Fisk, Bellamy, Sparham - all link to  Framlingham 
DERBY - Bridges and Frost (originally Framlingham/Parham)
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BERKSHIRE/then Hammersmith LDN - Fulker
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GGfather Michael Wilson born Cork, lived Fulham London - moved to Boston USA 1889, what happened next?

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Re: Weybread Parish Registers
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 26 March 14 17:45 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the response.

Problem is that Simon is reviewing "new" church (St Andrews) - if 1687 can in any way be called new!

Have just found references to "parish church of St Mary The Virgin" in old Weybread wills (1500s - 1600s), so expect that this was the original church which was "replaced" by St Andrews. Was wondering why .... presumed that someone would have come across this before. Suppose that PRs were "lost" or destroyed?

Yes, will contact RO anyway I guess.

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Re: Weybread Parish Registers
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 26 March 14 18:22 GMT (UK) »
Dedications rarely changed, so perhaps the Saint Mary the Virgin parish church is in fact a nearby parish? I have checked White's which only refers to St Andrew, they usually note if a church has been replaced due to fire etc.

According to TNA PRs are available from 1602, again they refer back to the SRO so I would think that would be worth following up.

Unfortunately there is no Local History Recorder in that parish  :(

SM
Every time I find an ancestor,
I have to find two more!

SUFFOLK - Pendle, Stygall, Pipe, Fruer, Bridges, Fisk, Bellamy, Sparham - all link to  Framlingham 
DERBY - Bridges and Frost (originally Framlingham/Parham)
NOTTINGHAM - Lambert & Selby
BERKSHIRE/then Hammersmith LDN - Fulker
LDN/MDX - Murray, Clancy, Broker, Hoskins, Marsden, Wilson, Sale
 
GGfather Michael Wilson born Cork, lived Fulham London - moved to Boston USA 1889, what happened next?


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Re: Weybread Parish Registers
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 26 March 14 21:00 GMT (UK) »
St Andrews is Grade II listed, and is referred to on the British Listed Buildings website as "medieval", so a church has been there for some time! If SM the V is a different parish ... I'm struggling to see where it might be!!

The 1687 date I am using was taken from the Suffolk RO site (PR info) and corresponds with the transcript of registers - copied from suffolk RO - that I have previously ordered through local Family History Centre.

Hmmm .... will contact RO anyway I guess and see what they say.

cheers
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Re: Weybread Parish Registers
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 26 March 14 22:05 GMT (UK) »
There is Pulham St Mary the Virgin about 4 miles away in Norfolk

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Re: Weybread Parish Registers
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 26 March 14 23:34 GMT (UK) »
I was surprised by the different date given by the NA, they seem to have quite a few records listed for the parish of Weybread, which are of course at the SRO.
Good luck with your searches.

SM
Every time I find an ancestor,
I have to find two more!

SUFFOLK - Pendle, Stygall, Pipe, Fruer, Bridges, Fisk, Bellamy, Sparham - all link to  Framlingham 
DERBY - Bridges and Frost (originally Framlingham/Parham)
NOTTINGHAM - Lambert & Selby
BERKSHIRE/then Hammersmith LDN - Fulker
LDN/MDX - Murray, Clancy, Broker, Hoskins, Marsden, Wilson, Sale
 
GGfather Michael Wilson born Cork, lived Fulham London - moved to Boston USA 1889, what happened next?

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Re: Weybread Parish Registers
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 27 March 14 00:23 GMT (UK) »

Simon has the church on his Suffolk website, www.suffolkchurches.co.uk/weybread.htm


This shows a "probably Norman" tower at St Andrew's, so it obviously long predates 1687.
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Re: Weybread Parish Registers
« Reply #8 on: Friday 28 March 14 16:14 GMT (UK) »
Thanks all for responses.

I have contacted SRO today. They confirm that 1687 date for PRs is correct, but were unable to give me any guidance on earlier information. Only suggestion appeared to be paid research on manorial rolls.
Was rather hoping someone else may have had to research here previously and would have some idea for earlier records.

Understand that church is obviously much earlier (medieval?) but still confused by references in 15thc wills to burial "in churchyard of St Mary the Virgin Weybread".

cheers
Artis (Norfolk / Suffolk / Cambridge / London)
Noller and Staff (Suffolk)
Cantwell and Driscoll (London and Ireland)
Harding (Littlehapton & Bethnal Green)