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Arrival 1873/4 Port Chalmers Martin & Sarah Bourke
« on: Sunday 29 June 14 12:08 BST (UK) »
Having scoured through everything I can think of, there seems no evidence of Martin & Sarah Bourke's arrival into Port Chalmers in 1873/4 (with several children), on the Otago, that I can find - apart from obituary notices.  Can anyone help please?

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Re: Arrival 1873/4 Port Chalmers Martin & Sarah Bourke
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 29 June 14 23:06 BST (UK) »
He may of came on his own into Christchurch then sent for his wife and family.

Name:    Martin Bourke
Event Type:    Immigration
Event Date:    29 Aug 1874
Event Place:    Canterbury, New Zealand
Gender:    Male
Age:    35
Nationality:    Clare
Occupation:    Farm Labourer
Birth Year (Estimated):    1839
Departure Date:    1874
Arrival Place:    Canterbury
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Re: Arrival 1873/4 Port Chalmers Martin & Sarah Bourke
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 29 June 14 23:40 BST (UK) »
From 'The Otago Daily Times' dated 31.12.1874 there is a brief report about the 'Otago' which "arrived this afternoon from Melbourne, she sails tonight". Saloon passengers are named, "30 in steerage". She was then sailing to Dunedin.

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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: Arrival 1873/4 Port Chalmers Martin & Sarah Bourke
« Reply #3 on: Monday 30 June 14 00:29 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that Minnie and Suzy - certainly your idea that Martin could have come separately sounds good, but it says he is single, and also a farm labourer, and in fact he was a school teacher and married with 5 children, so maybe this is a relative, and not our Martin? 

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Re: Arrival 1873/4 Port Chalmers Martin & Sarah Bourke
« Reply #4 on: Monday 30 June 14 01:48 BST (UK) »
'The Otago Daily Times' dated 1.1.1875 reports the arrival of the 'Otago', ss, 64 tons, from Melbourne (Dec.23rd) via Bluff (Dec.30th). Again, just saloon passengers named...........


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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: Arrival 1873/4 Port Chalmers Martin & Sarah Bourke
« Reply #5 on: Monday 30 June 14 02:03 BST (UK) »
From NZBound-Freepages-Ancestry.com (freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/)-

Full passenger list for the 'Otago' which arrived August 29th 1874*. However a quick scan did not find the Bourke family.

The arrival is briefly mentioned in the 'Otago Witness' dated 5.9.1874.

*The index shows the year incorrectly as 1875.


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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: Arrival 1873/4 Port Chalmers Martin & Sarah Bourke
« Reply #6 on: Monday 30 June 14 02:12 BST (UK) »
It seems so strange to me, that they aren't mentioned, if everything else points to their arrival in 1874 on the "Otago".  Why would this be?  Do you think they would have travelled steerage and not be mentioned?  But, according to Archives, NZ, they were not listed as "Assisted Immigrants", so they couldn't find them either!

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Re: Arrival 1873/4 Port Chalmers Martin & Sarah Bourke
« Reply #7 on: Monday 30 June 14 02:38 BST (UK) »
Yes, although not listed as "Assisted Immigrants" they would still most likely have travelled in steerage. The majority of people did. After a time with the arrival of so many immigrants, the newspapers no longer provided the names of all the passengers, preferring instead to list only those few not travelling in steerage. And the full lists in many instances have sadly not survived.  :'(


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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: Arrival 1873/4 Port Chalmers Martin & Sarah Bourke
« Reply #8 on: Monday 30 June 14 05:04 BST (UK) »
Hello...

Have you considered looking through the General Biographical card index [Bio 1] at Wellington Archives. Might be a mention. Might not :-)

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Just for the record, at the time there were two ships with the name of Otago sailing in NZ waters. One did the Melbourne-Dunedin route quite regularly and the other did the London-NZ route once a year-ish. The latter was the one that brought the migrants.

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