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Re: Poplar Poor Law Child - Laurence, Rose.
« Reply #9 on: Monday 29 September 14 20:18 BST (UK) »
Registered voters at 53 Godolphin Rd in 1931 included George and Rose Dunkerley (this spelling).

Could Mrs A be in fact Mrs R?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Poplar Poor Law Child - Laurence, Rose.
« Reply #10 on: Monday 29 September 14 20:31 BST (UK) »
George and Rose Dunkerley last appear together in the 1956 electoral roll (at 8 Ormiston Grove, Hammersmith) and the death of Rosa M Dunkerley aged 63 in Hammersmith, Jun qtr 1956 may be hers.  George died at Hammersmith Hospital on 22 March 1957, aged 57.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Poplar Poor Law Child - Laurence, Rose.
« Reply #11 on: Monday 29 September 14 22:45 BST (UK) »
Registered voters at 53 Godolphin Rd in 1931 included George and Rose Dunkerley (this spelling).

Could Mrs A be in fact Mrs R?

This is a very exciting find avm. Very easy for an A and an R to be confused when either typed or written. This lady called Rose/a too.  ;D

The birth certificate will obviously confirm. There will still be some questions but hopefully if you can chase up some workhouse documents that might help fill in some blanks.

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Re: Poplar Poor Law Child - Laurence, Rose.
« Reply #12 on: Monday 29 September 14 22:51 BST (UK) »
So perhaps they left a work house type of environment and she had no place for the child, but went back for her years later only to find out she was gone.

This seems to be a continuing theme. On one of your other threads Romilly discovered something similar in her family:
"She was persuaded to let some of her sons enter the NCH as a temporary measure, - but when she tried to reclaim them, was told that they had been sent to Canada".


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Re: Poplar Poor Law Child - Laurence, Rose.
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 30 September 14 01:39 BST (UK) »
WOW thank you so much! This is amazing, super excited to try and match this information with the birth certificate and continue with the research.

It was my understanding her mothers name was Rose Maud so this would fit.

Where can i find these records? I'd love to have a copy of the documents for my "collection".

Thank you again!

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Re: Poplar Poor Law Child - Laurence, Rose.
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 30 September 14 06:02 BST (UK) »

Where can i find these records? I'd love to have a copy of the documents for my "collection".


They are on Ancestry under London, England Electoral Registers 1832-1965.
Avm will confirm.

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Re: Poplar Poor Law Child - Laurence, Rose.
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 30 September 14 06:27 BST (UK) »
I can't see an obvious marriage between a George Dunk*y and a Ros* La*r*ce. It is possible she married in between giving birth to Rosa and living with George Dunkerley, so she may have married under another surname ... or ... perhaps there was no marriage.

(I was attempting to find other children Rosa may have had ...)


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Re: Poplar Poor Law Child - Laurence, Rose.
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 30 September 14 06:36 BST (UK) »
It was my understanding her mothers name was Rose Maud so this would fit.

Can I ask where this information came from?

There is a Rose Maud Lawrence aged 22 on the 1911 census with mother, also called Rose, plus older siblings. They are in Wood Green. This Rose is a typist and the family seem fairly well off.

I don't know if this is the same Rose Maud who you believe may be the mother of your Rosa.

Hopefully the birth certificate will clarify.  :)

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Re: Poplar Poor Law Child - Laurence, Rose.
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 30 September 14 08:14 BST (UK) »
I couldn't find a marriage for the Dunkerleys either.

The age at death for Rose/Rosa suggests a birthdate of c1892-3, so the 22 yr old in 1911 would be older than expected.  On the other hand she may well have played down her age given that George was a few years younger (1899-1900).

They seem to turn up in Shepherds Bush/Hammersmith c1929.  They are not at 53 Godolphin Rd in the 1928 ER, I have not found the 1929, and they are listed there in the 1930 ER for which info would have been collected in autumn 1929.  Rose/Rosa would have been in her late 30s to early 40s by this time depending on what her correct birthdate turns out to be.

My hunch (very much unproven) about George Dunkerley is that he may be the one who was born Dec qtr 1899 Sculcoates & was in Hull with parents in both subsequent censuses.  When George died in Hammersmith, administration of his estate of £373 was granted to George and Jean Woodrow of Nottingham.  The Hull family of Dunkerleys had a daughter Jane Ann b 1897 who may have made a first marriage to a Wilfred Moran in 1915 with. Child born in 1917.  I have not traced a later marriage for her to a George Woodrow or a shift in name to Jean.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)