Simkiss/Humphreyson/Rowley/Tolley - Pattingham

[Willow 4873]

Hiya Rachel

I finally managed to catch up with you post Ive found another Humphreyson http://www.book.co.nz/dovey9.htm

I dont know how she ties into our lot but I'll keep looking

Willow x

[RachelK]

Thanks Willow.

This one might be connected to us. I kind of got stuck and gave up for the meantime! David, who Paulene put me in contact with, did reply to my email and told me about the history of the Humphersons. He said he is conducting a one name study I think? Can't remember whether I've replied to him as it was after xmas when I had flu. Will find the email and tell you what info he shared with me if I haven't already.

Will records for Pattingham be at the new Wolverhampton Archives when it reopens at all? I'm not sure what's held where?

[Willow 4873]

Hiya Rachel

I think they might be but I have has another breakthrough

On the Wolverhampton Archives site I found two other baptisms of John and Ann

John Humpharson 15.9.1811
Edward Humpharson 10.9.1809

If you search for Edward on the 1851 John is still alive b 1781 Wolverhampton. John is a provisions dealer and Edward is a gardener

Willow x

[RachelK]

Yep we're on the same track, cos I found them too. No idea where my notes are at the mo cos I am rubbish LOL. I am in the process of putting my tree on a tribal pages site now cos I find it much better than GR. It's so good for adding all the census and certificate info etc.

I think we need to just find whatever we can on Harriet and family, make sure we're getting it right cos as usual it's guesswork from me. I did presume (rightly or wrongly) that this John and Edward are Harriet's brothers.

[Willow 4873]

Hiya Rachel

Yes I'm pretty sure they are and I have also found on FreeREG

Sarah bap 1.8.1813
Joseph 26.5.1815

Edward married Emma Horton 29.1.1852 at St Johns - Edward listed as provisions dealer John as 'Gentleman' lol

Willow x

[RachelK]

1841 Stafford Street, W-ton (mistranscribed Humphesson)

John Humphryson 55 Gardener Y
Ann Humphryson 50 Y
Edward Humphryson 30 Gardener Y
James Humphryson 20 Painter Y

Working on the assumption our John married Ann Farr, there is in the same Street a Joseph Farr and his family, although the name could say Fenn. Can't read it too well.

My only problem is though, Harriet ch.1804 and parents not married till 1807?

[Willow 4873]

Hiya Rachel

Yes thats mine too - I wonder if John was married before?

Though on the 1851 census Harriet gives her place of birth as London so is it the right family?

Willow x

[Willow 4873]

I just thought of someting else

There is a Humpheryson family in Sedgley with a head called Richard. on the same census Edward gives his place of birth as Sedgley - I wonder if this is a connection

Willow x

[Willow 4873]

Hiya Rachel

I have found several burials for these Humphreysons on the Wolverhampton Archives site at St Peters. The most interesting bit is after Ann burial it says 'Brick grave new ground' and after Emmas (Edwards wife) it says 'vault full'

We have a vault?! I'll pop over next week and see if it still exists

I'm still not convinced that this is the right family I think we need to look at the Pattingham records to rule out that Harriet came from there but wow a vault! I havent managed to find a grave for any of mine so far

Thanx for the PM - interesting reading!

Willow x