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Strange Placename -- OBERDOLLYLAND -- Completed
« on: Monday 13 June 11 13:25 BST (UK) »
While Assisting a friend with her research we are puzzled by a placename in the Langholm area. The IGI list a place called OBERDOLLYLAND.  The OPR however does not.  The combined image snip shows what we mean.

Groome’s and Rev Wilson’s Gazetteers of Scotland do not record anything remotely like the name given.  A checking of the 1828 Crawford map of Dumfriesshire and later OS maps draw a blank.

Question: Is there such a place?  Any suggestions?
Adam : Criggie : Davidson : Freeman : Jeamie : Lownie : Mackie : Pittendreigh : Ritchie
in Kinneff, Bervie, Benholm & St. Cyrus Parishes

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Re: Strange Placename -- OBERDOLLYLAND
« Reply #1 on: Monday 13 June 11 14:19 BST (UK) »
 ;D  As usual these are NOT extracted records they have been submitted by members of the LDS church.  (Looks like someone had a weird sense of humour!  :P)

It doesn't appear on the updated version which are extracted from records held by SP.

https://www.familysearch.org/

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Ireland, Co Antrim: Kerr; Hollinger; Forsythe; Moore
Ireland, Co Louth: Carson; Leslie
Ireland, Co Kerry: Ferris
Scotland, Perthshire/Glasgow:  Stewart
England, Devon/Cornwall: Ferris, Gasser/Jasser/Jesser, Norman

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Re: Strange Placename -- OBERDOLLYLAND
« Reply #2 on: Monday 13 June 11 14:31 BST (UK) »
Although only  patron submissions, there must be some element of truth in the place.

Here's the entry for John Lyttle, son of John Lyttle - baptised 28th March 1675.

Haven't found the place yet.  There are quite a few wills/TTs for a John Little, merchant of Langholm  :-\


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Re: Strange Placename -- OBERDOLLYLAND
« Reply #3 on: Monday 13 June 11 14:42 BST (UK) »
I'm not very good at reading that form of script but it looks as if we're looking for a 'Dollyland' where John ? , one of the witnesses,  lived and the Lyttles lived at Over, Ober  or  even Upper  Dxxxyland'

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Re: Strange Placename -- OBERDOLLYLAND
« Reply #4 on: Monday 13 June 11 14:42 BST (UK) »
Compared to the following "l" they look nothing like each other could they be "b"s??  
Ireland, Co Antrim: Kerr; Hollinger; Forsythe; Moore
Ireland, Co Louth: Carson; Leslie
Ireland, Co Kerry: Ferris
Scotland, Perthshire/Glasgow:  Stewart
England, Devon/Cornwall: Ferris, Gasser/Jasser/Jesser, Norman

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Re: Strange Placename -- OBERDOLLYLAND
« Reply #5 on: Monday 13 June 11 14:44 BST (UK) »
I'm not very good at reading that form of script but it looks as if we're looking for a 'Dollyland' where John ? , one of the witnesses,  lived and the Lyttles lived at Over, Ober  or  even Upper  Dxxxyland'

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Ober/Uber = Upper, above or over

I think that's the key
Ireland, Co Antrim: Kerr; Hollinger; Forsythe; Moore
Ireland, Co Louth: Carson; Leslie
Ireland, Co Kerry: Ferris
Scotland, Perthshire/Glasgow:  Stewart
England, Devon/Cornwall: Ferris, Gasser/Jasser/Jesser, Norman

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Re: Strange Placename -- OBERDOLLYLAND
« Reply #6 on: Monday 13 June 11 14:50 BST (UK) »
You wouldn't like to hazard a guess of the surname of the first witness, would you - a John <something>  It might then be possible to chase him up.
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Re: Strange Placename -- OBERDOLLYLAND
« Reply #7 on: Monday 13 June 11 14:53 BST (UK) »
Used to be Longholm

http://www.geog.port.ac.uk/webmap/thelakes/html/topics/lk17376f.htm

Lord no!  :o  I'm struggling to make sense of it!  :P  How about posting on the Deciphering board, they are a whiz at this type of stuff?
Ireland, Co Antrim: Kerr; Hollinger; Forsythe; Moore
Ireland, Co Louth: Carson; Leslie
Ireland, Co Kerry: Ferris
Scotland, Perthshire/Glasgow:  Stewart
England, Devon/Cornwall: Ferris, Gasser/Jasser/Jesser, Norman

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Re: Strange Placename -- OBERDOLLYLAND
« Reply #8 on: Monday 13 June 11 14:56 BST (UK) »
Here's another version - from the same page - maybe a relative:

Looks far more like Ober dolbyland on this one.

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