BURKE, Thomas & FRANCIS, Sabina - missing marriage

[NJ Holmes]

Good morning

I am searching for a marriage record for my great-great grandparents which has proved elusive for some years now. Perhaps someone here can assist. Details I have:

Groom:
Thomas BURKE
Born: 26 Apr 1841, Kirbrown (Carabrown?), Galway, Ireland
Died: 20 May 1906, Milton, Otago, New Zealand
Son of John BURKE and Mary, nee CONNOR

Bride:
Sabina FRANCIS
Born: about 1849, Barrandooley, Galway, Ireland
Died: 20 Jan 1882, Helensbrook, Tokomairiro, Otago, New Zealand
Daughter of Michael FRANCIS and Bridget, nee WELSH

Their children, all born in NZ:
Michael
John
Thomas
William
Bridget (twin)
Tobias (twin)
Patrick

Bridget's birth certificate (10/10/1877) shows Thomas and Sabina as married at Castlegar on 24/11/1869.
Patrick's birth certificate (30/10/1879) shows Thomas and Sabina as married at Castlegar on 28/10/1869.

I wrote to the registrar general in Dublin in 1997 and paid the requisite fee for a search. They searched under BURKE and BOURKE and found nothing for 1868 to 1870 inclusive.

Any assistance would be very much appreciated.

Many thanks

[taramcdsmall]

Hi There

They would have been married in Castlegar Church Galway which I have some records for.

Give me a few minutes to dig them out and I'll see can I find them !

Tara

[taramcdsmall]

Hi There

Ok So, Good news as I found their marriage !

The thing is that Sabina is one of those trick christian names at the time but when she got married she went under the version 'Celia' - I will have a look for her birth as I'd imagine that she was actually baptised Bridget !!! Bridget usually let onto Delia / Celia / Bina / Sabina depending on the family !

Thomas   Burke   Celia   Francis   9/2/1869   Ballindooly   

Stephen Birmingham, Mary Hogan (Best Man & Bridesmaid)

Thomas was from Carrowbrowne, Galway and Celia from Ballindooly which is right beside Carrowbrowne.

This is the church that they got married in !

http://www.castlegar-galway.com/castlegar-church

I will be back to you in a mo with more info !

Tara

[taramcdsmall]

Hi There

I'm pretty sure that this is Sabina's baptism

Francis   Libby   8/3/1848   Michael   Francis   Bridget   Hogan   Ballindooly   

John Crow, Wenny Francis (Godparents)

Libby is another version of Sabina (crazy I know but true HA !)

The thing is that Francis is not a Ballindooly surname - it is found in Menlo and Terryland and Ballinfoyle (all townlands nearby) but this is the only Ballindooly reference.

When Sabina emmigrated there MAY have been confusion re her mother's maiden name - sure a lot of the time most people just didn't know their mother's maiden name !!!

Anyway, I think what you will find more interesting is that Sir Patrick Hogan is a descendant of the Hogan's of Ballindooly, so in some way you are related to him !!!

I will have another look for more info !

Tara

[taramcdsmall]

Siblings of Sabina

Sister Mary

Francis   Mary   6/12/1845   Michael   Francis   Bridget   Hogan   Ballindooly   

Hugh Hogan, Celia Moran (Godparents)

Sister Margaret

Francis   Margaret   2/9/1843   Michael   Francis   Biddy   Hogan   Ballindooly

Michael Hogan, Kate Fahy (Godparents)

Sister Kate

Francis   Kate   6/18/1840   Michael   Francis   Bridget   Hogan   Ballindooly   

Kate Walsh, John Francis (Godparents)

This then is the marriage of Michael Francis and Bridget (Biddy) Hogan

Michael   Francis   Biddy   Hogan   2/9/1839   Ballindooly

Dennis Francis, Mary Walsh (Best Man & Bridesmaid)

I will have a look for the Burke's now !

Tara

[taramcdsmall]

Ok SO

On to Thomas now (please note though that his mother's maiden name was actually CONNELL)

Burke   Thomas   4/26/1841   John   Burke   Mary   Connell   Ballindooly

Cate Burke (Godmother)

Siblings for Thomas

Brother Patrick

Burke   Patrick   3/17/1833   John   Burke   Mary   Connell   Ballindooly   

Daniel Glynn, Ellen Burke (Godparents)

Brother Toby (VERY rare name in the area)

Burke   Toby   2/10/1835   John   Burke   Mary   Connell      

Thomas Small, Mary Boyle (Godparents - you won't believe this but this Thomas Small was my husband's 3 x Great Grandfather !!!)

Brother John

Burke   John   10/4/1837   John   Burke   Mary   Connel   Ballindooly   

Hubert and Cate Craven (Godparents)

Sister Mary

Burke   Mary   9/9/1838   John   Burke   Mary   Connell   Ballindooly

Patrick Lee, Biddy Ward (Godparents)

Sister Catherine

Burke   Catherine   5/2/1844   John   Burke   Mary   Connell   Ballindooly   

Pat Silk, Cate Glynn (Godparents)

This is the marriage then for John Burke and Mary Connell

John   Burke   Mary   Connell   3/5/1832   Ballindooly

Patrick Silk, Mary Duggan (Best Man and Bridesmaid)

So - The Castlegar Church records only began in 1827 so I'm afraid that this is as far back as you will get !!

Hoe you enjoy this !

Tara

[taramcdsmall]

Re Sir Patrick Hogan

 http://www.rootschat.com/links/0wrf/

Tara

[taramcdsmall]

Re GV for the area

http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths/galway/rahoon.htm

You will see a Michael Burke left in Ballindooly - possibly a brother ?

There is a Tobias Burke in Shell Lane but that is in Galway City, but given the rarity of the Christian name it MIGHT be worth following up.

There are 2 Connell families left in Killroghter which is the townland right beside Ballindooley.

There are no Francis's showing in Ballindooley but as I said before the surname is moreso from Menlo and Terryland so he MAY have moved to Ballindooley to marry Bridget Hogan and stayed there to farm for a while.

Then you will see 3 Hogan men still in Ballindooley !

Tara

[taramcdsmall]

Another interesting Hogan article !

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-24897307.html

Tara