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« Reply #9 on: Monday 14 October 13 11:27 BST (UK) »
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« Reply #10 on: Monday 14 October 13 11:42 BST (UK) »
Owen,
         To go back to your original question "the history of the Phillips name in Derry". The earliest record I can find for the name in the county is that of Sir Thomas Phillips. He was an English military man in the Nine Years war and when that was over he was given property and land in Coleraine in 1603. When the London Companies got involved in the Plantation in 1608 Phillips had to give up his Coleraine lands but was given land at Limavady instead. He resided there as did his son and grandson until the late 1690s when the Limavady Holding was sold.

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« Reply #11 on: Monday 14 October 13 11:43 BST (UK) »
The census record does not say that John Kerr owns the house that William Phillips is occupying- merely that he is the leaseholder of the property (in Griffith's called immediate lessor). To check on the ownership you need to consult the Valuation Revision Books- most people were not actually property owners at that time-
http://www.proni.gov.uk/index/search_the_archives/val12b.htm

Well the fact that his name is on it made me think.

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« Reply #12 on: Monday 14 October 13 11:46 BST (UK) »
Patt Kerr listed in Aghafad in 1827 http://www.cotyroneireland.com/tithe/donacavey1827.html

Thank you. Yes that would be him but I need to find his wife and her maiden name to see if john kerr is actually related to the Phillips?


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Re: Phillips of Londonderry
« Reply #13 on: Monday 14 October 13 11:47 BST (UK) »
Owen,
         To go back to your original question "the history of the Phillips name in Derry". The earliest record I can find for the name in the county is that of Sir Thomas Phillips. He was an English military man in the Nine Years war and when that was over he was given property and land in Coleraine in 1603. When the London Companies got involved in the Plantation in 1608 Phillips had to give up his Coleraine lands but was given land at Limavady instead. He resided there as did his son and grandson until the late 1690s when the Limavady Holding was sold.

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Would the glendermott phillips be related to him then or are they from a different family?

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« Reply #14 on: Monday 14 October 13 12:12 BST (UK) »
Here is the 1878 Will of Patrick Kerr of Aughafad, Co Tyrone http://applications.proni.gov.uk/DCAL_PRONI_WillsCalendar/WillsSearchImage.aspx?id=173523
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« Reply #15 on: Monday 14 October 13 12:24 BST (UK) »
Sorry Owen, I have not researched the Phillips family.

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Neil, Smyth _Co. Antrim

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« Reply #16 on: Monday 14 October 13 12:29 BST (UK) »
Here is the 1878 Will of Patrick Kerr of Aughafad, Co Tyrone http://applications.proni.gov.uk/DCAL_PRONI_WillsCalendar/WillsSearchImage.aspx?id=173523

Patrick Kerr was born c1808 according to civil registration index, so not that young to be the father of a John Kerr born in 1850s.
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« Reply #17 on: Monday 14 October 13 12:34 BST (UK) »
The Will lists a wife Rose ( who possibly is the Rose Kerr who died in Omagh RD in 1892 aged 78), and children Owen, Anne, Dennis and John.

Owen is presumably the eldest as he got the farm.
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