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Burls / Vanstone marriage in Gibraltar
« on: Sunday 22 September 13 12:20 BST (UK) »
Hi Roots Chatters :)

I'm hoping you can help me find the marriage of my wife's grandparents in Gibraltar

Frederick Alfred Burls (1898 – 1989)
Muriel Fredriqua Vanstone (1901(3))

Many thanks
Gerry :D
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Re: Burls / Vanstone marriage in Gibraltar
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 22 September 13 14:23 BST (UK) »
hi Gerry
firstly birth record for Muriel Frederica Vanstone reg dist st germans cornwall jul-sep 1903 vol 5c page 27 .

looked up her marriage to Frederick a burls but nothing shows at all which is unusual as I,d expect to find it in consular marriages or army marriages do you know why they wed in gib ?
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Re: Burls / Vanstone marriage in Gibraltar
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 22 September 13 16:44 BST (UK) »
Hi Trevor

Thanks for your reply.

Frederick, known as Alf, moved there with his parents when he was 13 and Muriel was there with her family due to father being in the Navy.

Frederick's dad work in the Naval dock yards as an engineer.

The only other bits of information I have are that Alf's younger sister Phoebe, saved a sailor from drowning in the docks at age 13, she then died around age 15. There was another brother, name unknown and older sister, Eleanor, known as Nelly.
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Re: Burls / Vanstone marriage in Gibraltar
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 22 September 13 23:04 BST (UK) »
I had a look at The Vanstone Web (www.Vanstoneweb.co.uk), but can't see Muriel?

If you know her parents names, they are probably there - and there will be a long family tree, too!

Have you looked under Vanston (without the e?). My lot were in Jersey in the 1841 census under Vanston!



In 1929, there are Frederick Vanstone (57), a Civil Servant, Mary G Vanstone (55), and Dorothy G Vanstone (24) sailing on the Rawalpindi (P & O).
Last permanent residence: Gibraltar. Arrival London 10th May, but they disembarked at Plymouth.
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)


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Re: Burls / Vanstone marriage in Gibraltar
« Reply #4 on: Monday 23 September 13 15:05 BST (UK) »
Thank you K Garrad

I will look at the link you sent

I will also check out the P&O sailing you mentioned

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Gerry
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Re: Burls / Vanstone marriage in Gibraltar
« Reply #5 on: Monday 23 September 13 19:38 BST (UK) »
Hi, whilst not what your looking for, Muriel Burls died aged 84 November 1987 Bromley Kent. DOB GIVEN AS 18.7.1903.

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Re: Burls / Vanstone marriage in Gibraltar
« Reply #6 on: Monday 23 September 13 20:19 BST (UK) »
Father Frederick W Vanstone was a Ship's Steward in 1901, and the same in 1911.
He obviously progressed from there to being a Civil Servant?


Do you have the census returns?
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Burls / Vanstone marriage in Gibraltar
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 24 September 13 16:26 BST (UK) »
Hi John
Thanks for Muriel's death details. DoB still in question. Family say 1901 all enquiries say 1903?

Hi K Gerrard
Thank you for Frederick Snr details. Is this Vanstone not Burls as it seems strange as I was told Frederick Burls father was also Frederick. I guess both parents could be Frederick?

No I don't have any census on any of the family would be good to have if you have them.Thanks

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Re: Burls / Vanstone marriage in Gibraltar
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 24 September 13 19:21 BST (UK) »
Muriel was indeed born in 1903!

From FreeBMD:

Births, September qtr 1903
St Germans district    vol 5c, page 27
Vanstone, Muriel Frederica

Also:
March qtr 1899
St Germans district    vol 5c, page 26
Vanstone, Lionel Frederick

March qtr 1905
St Germans district    vol 5c, page 31
Vanstone, Dorothy G A

December qtr 1906
St Germans district    vol 5c, page 28
Vanstone, Queenie Eileen



1901 census: Class:  RG13; Piece:  2186; Folio:  143; Page:  10
Armada Road, Cawsand, Rame, Cornwall

Vanstone, Mary G  Head  Married  F  26  b Cawsand
Vanstone, Lionel F  Son  M  2  b Cawsand

(next door is a Cock family! George & Elizabeth)


Marriages, September qtr 1897
St Germans district    vol 5c, page 51
Vanstone, Frederick William
Cock, Mary Grace
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)