***LMA/Ancestry "Missing" Parishes***

[suelaw1954]

Hi,
While I've found the LMA records online at Ancestry a tremendous help, I have come across a few problems. I thought I'd share with the aim of saving other people wasting time hunting for stuff which isn't there. or is mislabelled or mislinked.

Missing
Parish                                                                 Evidence for Existence
St Giles Cripplegate, Baptisms, 1834-1850   Indexed from the original Prs by LDS, film available
St Dunstan Stepney, Baptisms, 1838-1847   Indexed from the original Prs by LDS, film available
St Mark Kennington, Marriages, 1834-1845   Indexed from the original Prs by LDS, film available
St Pancras Church, Baptisms 1808
Pages 188-207 missing from the online PR.    Indexed from the original Prs by LDS, film available
St John of Wapping, Baptisms 1781-1812   transcribed from microfilm of the original by Docklands Ancestors

Mis-linked
Parish                                                     Problem
St John of Wapping 1707-1740      Nothing missing but this actually includes burials to 1770
St John of Wapping 1813-1834      Actually links to the Baptism register for 1700-1734

Misnamed
Parish                                                Real name
Islington/Saint Luke Milwall         This is actually registers from St Luke Old Street

Unfortunately the Ancestry people aren't interested in this sort of information.

Sue in Australia 

[Valda]

Hi Sue

Dawn my co-moderator has placed this topic at the top of the London and Middlesex look up board

***LMA/Ancestry "Missing" Parishes***

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,409438.0.html

There's a sticky placed on it - meaning as it gets older it doesn't travel down the board and further back in the pages so it is not lost. It might be better to post there.

The parishes are far from completed for the first period of records indexed and put up as I discovered when I checked the marriages just for the City of London churches.


Regards

Valda

[dawnsh]

Hi Sue

I've merged your topic so that it is now included with other parish information.

As Valda & Cockneykid explained, the LMA/Ancestry project is still a 'work in progress'. We are hopeful for further additions with another update hopefully in the spring of 2010.

Dawn

[Valda]

Hi

As it is mentioned in my previous posting I'll place it in full here - this is the situation I found when I checked the Ancestry website in December 2009. The check was only done for marriages (Ancestry London parish records - marriages 1754-1921) and only for the square mile of the City of London parishes and not Middlesex or metropolitan Surrey and Kent. The date given is the starting date of the registers so far covered in the drop down section of 'Browse the collection'

All Hallows Barking not deposited
All Hallows Honey Lane 1818 and then missing years
All Hallows the Great starts in 1754 but then skips to 1799 and proceeds on from there
All Hallows the Less not there
Barnard's Inn not deposited?
Bridewell chapel 1757 with some missing years thereafter
Christchurch Newgate 1758 then 1778 but starts properly in 1801
Furnival's Inn not deposited?
Holy Trinity the Less 1755

Not quite sure what St Faith Stoke Newington (Hackney) was doing in the City list
or Saint Michael and All Angels Bedford Park (Chiswick)

Holy Trinity Minories (found under Stepney) full coverage

Lamb Chapel missing
Precinct of Whitefriars not deposited?
St Andrew Hubbard 1813
St Ann  Blackfriars 1813
St Bartholomew by the Exchange 1813
St Bartholomew the Less 1807
St Botolph Billingsgate 1780
St Faith under St Pauls 1813
St Gabriel Fenchurch 1814
St John the Baptist missing
St John the Evangelist Friday Street 1906
St John Zachary 1755
St Lawrence Pountney missing
St Leonard Eastcheap missing
St Leonard Foster Lane 1800
St Margaret Fish Hill Street missing
St Margaret Moses 1813
St Martin Orgar missing
St Martin Pomary missing
St Martin Vintry 1813
St Mary Aldermansbury is there in full but mispelt as Aldermanbury
St Mary Colechurch missing
St Mary Magdalene Milk Street missing
St Mary Mountshaw is there in full but mispelt as Mounthaw
St Mary Staining 1813
St Mary Woolchurch Haw 1814
St Matthew Friday Street  1800
St Michael Bassishaw 1755 and then full start from 1758
St Michael Le Querne 1803
St Nicholas Acorns 1813
St Nicholas Cole Abbey 1755
St Nicholas Olave 1813
St Olave Silver Street 1800
St Pancras Soper Lane 1818
St Paul's Cathedral missing
Sr Paul's Wharf only 1828 and 1834
St Peter Westcheap 1814
St Stephen Walbrook 1804
St Thomas the Apostle 1813
Serjeants Inn not deposited?
Staple Inn not deposited?
Thavia's Inn not deposited?
The Temple not deposited?


In fairness to Ancestry as Dawn says this is a massive undertaking on a scale its doubtful that has ever been tackled before.



Regards

Valda

[louisa maud]

If my opinion is worth anything I think the LMA have done a brilliant job so far.

Louisa Maud

[suelaw1954]

I agree. I've just made another breakthrough based on what's up there. It's just frustrating when you want to help and they don't want to know.

It's like a library - a mis-shelved book is a lost book and when I come across a mis-shelved book I ALWAYS put it back on the sorting shelves.

Sue    (Perfectionist)

[suelaw1954]

Another issue for the warning list.

Many of the entries for Christ Church, Watney Street, St George in the East have been indexed twice. One set of records (i.e. the database entries) is correct. The other set shows the church as St George in the East (though the citations are correct).

Sue

[smudwhisk]

I've found no registers for Deptford St Paul, although Deptford St Nicholas is there.  Phillimore's Atlas of Parish Registers does say the originals are at the LMA so I'm assuming will eventually get added.

[cockneykid]

Saint Paul Deptford is definately on there. If you browse by borough and look under Lewisham you will find it. St Nicholas Deptford is in the borough of Greenwich, so this might be the cause of the problem.