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Cilmelyn Farm, Bangor?
« on: Friday 06 June 14 12:50 BST (UK) »
I am interested in any information anybody has about Cilmelyn Farm in Penrhosgarnedd, Bangor.

My ancestors farmed Cilmelyn between the 1880's and 1970's. The farm was located on the site where Ysbyty Gwynedd is now positioned. The land was sold in about 1978 to make way for the new hospital. I believe the land may originally have been owned by the Vaynol (Faenol) Estate but I am not too sure.

On census records between 1881 and 1911 there are two farms called Cilmelyn however, one was actually called Cae Ysgubor Wen and the other Cilmelyn, my ancestors farmed Cilmelyn.

I would be pleased to hear from anyone who can give me any information on this farm during the time of my ancestors or before and after.

Many thanks,

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Griffith(s) - Anglesey: Pentraeth, Llanddona.

Hughes - Anglesey: Holyhead, Llangefni, Pentraeth.
Caernarvonshire: Gyffin, Dwygyfylchi, Penmaenmawr.

Jones - Anglesey: Llangefni
Denbighshire: Betws yn Rhos, Llanfairtalhaiarn

Owen/Owens - Anglesey: Llanbadrig.
Caernarvonshire: Bangor, Penrhosgarnedd.
Denbighshire: Cerrigydrudion.

Roberts - Caernarvonshire: Dwygyfylchi, Penmaenmawr, Llysfaen.

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Re: Cilmelyn Farm, Bangor?
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 08 June 14 11:33 BST (UK) »
I know the family that lived on Cae Ysgubor Wen but not the Cilmelyn farm. I'll ask the family I know when I see them. The hospital was built directly on top of Cae Ysgubor and I thought the farmhouse and a couple of fields of Cilmelin still survived on the Easterly side of the hospital
Jones, Parry, Williams on Lleyn, Hughes, Thomas on Anglesey/Caernarvonshire, Blunt, Davies, Lee in Dudley, Staffs
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Re: Cilmelyn Farm, Bangor?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 08 June 14 11:44 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the information any feedback you can give will be appreciated. If you mention the family's name at Cilmelyn was Owen it may ring a bell.

Some of the fields are still there but the Cilmelyn farmhouse has also gone. The location of the farmhouse is where the cancer and renal units are now. There is also a housing development near the hospital which is called Cae Cilmelyn,

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Griffith(s) - Anglesey: Pentraeth, Llanddona.

Hughes - Anglesey: Holyhead, Llangefni, Pentraeth.
Caernarvonshire: Gyffin, Dwygyfylchi, Penmaenmawr.

Jones - Anglesey: Llangefni
Denbighshire: Betws yn Rhos, Llanfairtalhaiarn

Owen/Owens - Anglesey: Llanbadrig.
Caernarvonshire: Bangor, Penrhosgarnedd.
Denbighshire: Cerrigydrudion.

Roberts - Caernarvonshire: Dwygyfylchi, Penmaenmawr, Llysfaen.

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Re: Cilmelyn Farm, Bangor?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 08 June 14 13:08 BST (UK) »
Sending you a message via rootschat
Jones, Parry, Williams on Lleyn, Hughes, Thomas on Anglesey/Caernarvonshire, Blunt, Davies, Lee in Dudley, Staffs
Cox, Humphreys and Keech, Bedford
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Re: Cilmelyn Farm, Bangor?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 08 June 14 20:27 BST (UK) »
Hi Gareth
I just spoke with my auntie, age 82, in Wrexham.   She says she knew the elderly lady from the Cilmelyn farm and when she and my uncle first moved there (before the hospital) she used to walk across the fields with the lady.  She remembers that the farmer and his wife built a bungalow behind my uncle and aunt's house after they sold the farm.   She thinks there is a road there now with a newer housing estate of bigger houses.   
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Re: Cilmelyn Farm, Bangor?
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 08 June 14 20:55 BST (UK) »
Hi H

I recall the family mentioned that a new bungalow was built not far from the farm. My grand uncle was about the last full time farmer at Cilmelyn and he died in the late 1960's.

Not sure who the old lady might be I'm guessing it might be my grand aunt but there was two farms at Cilmelyn (Cilmelyn and Ysgybor Wen) so they may have been from the other farm.

I spent part of my youth in Penrhosgarnedd and it has changed a lot since I was a kid. My ancestors lived in a number of properties around this area over the past 150 years but these have all gone and replaced with new estates.

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Griffith(s) - Anglesey: Pentraeth, Llanddona.

Hughes - Anglesey: Holyhead, Llangefni, Pentraeth.
Caernarvonshire: Gyffin, Dwygyfylchi, Penmaenmawr.

Jones - Anglesey: Llangefni
Denbighshire: Betws yn Rhos, Llanfairtalhaiarn

Owen/Owens - Anglesey: Llanbadrig.
Caernarvonshire: Bangor, Penrhosgarnedd.
Denbighshire: Cerrigydrudion.

Roberts - Caernarvonshire: Dwygyfylchi, Penmaenmawr, Llysfaen.

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Re: Cilmelyn Farm, Bangor?
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 08 June 14 21:43 BST (UK) »
Welsh Newspapers on line -

http://welshnewspapers.llgc.org.uk/en/home

Have found several references to Cilmelyn Farm and Cae Ysgubor Wen

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Re: Cilmelyn Farm, Bangor?
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 08 June 14 22:29 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the link.

The references seem to be mainly around my g-grandfather and his wide spectrum of skills, from guardian of the poor to selling dodgy cows. This still runs in the family....well the latter does anyway ;D

The advertisements on the purchase of farm stock and the lease of farm land at Cilmelyn in 1887 might be connected with the time my family first took over the farm.

Diolch,
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Griffith(s) - Anglesey: Pentraeth, Llanddona.

Hughes - Anglesey: Holyhead, Llangefni, Pentraeth.
Caernarvonshire: Gyffin, Dwygyfylchi, Penmaenmawr.

Jones - Anglesey: Llangefni
Denbighshire: Betws yn Rhos, Llanfairtalhaiarn

Owen/Owens - Anglesey: Llanbadrig.
Caernarvonshire: Bangor, Penrhosgarnedd.
Denbighshire: Cerrigydrudion.

Roberts - Caernarvonshire: Dwygyfylchi, Penmaenmawr, Llysfaen.

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Re: Cilmelyn Farm, Bangor?
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 29 March 15 12:35 BST (UK) »
My Nain is the daughter of Cilmelyn Farm and my Uncle and Auntie still lives in the newer bunglow, which my parents lived there before moving to Llyn.