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Re: BMDs for LAMONT, Blackcraig, Minnigaff
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 29 March 12 15:38 BST (UK) »
... Interesting about possible lead poisoning - as far as I know, this generation were involved in forestry related occupations, but I suppose we don't know what kind of exposure they may have had to lead in their day to day lives. I'm going to try to chase up some information about this.  :)
This may be of interest:
Working in forestry fits the post lead mining industrial scene of this area.
As I mentioned, much of the Blackcraig and neighbouring low hills are heavily forested.
There would probably have been a fair amount of lead processing slag to be cleared before planting started.
Here is something I trawled from the Internet some time back when looking for detail of the lives of Wanlockhead lead miners in Dumfriesshire.
Source:   www.peaklandheritage.org.uk/redirect.asp?peakkey=20300321

"Lead miners spent their working lives in cramped passages with poor ventilation and only candles for lighting. Daniel Defoe described a miner as a “subterranean creature ... lean as a skeleton, pale as a dead corpse, his flesh lank ... and something of the colour of lead itself.”

The greatest risk to a lead miner’s health was the belland.
Its proper name is plumbism and means lead poisoning.
This is a description of the dreaded illness:
“A continual Asthma or difficulty of Breathing seizes the Patient, with a dejection of Appetite, his Complexion turns pale and yellowish; these are attended with a dry cough and hoarseness; swelling of the joints and limbs ensue, which are rendered useless...”

TB variant !   -- quite nasty anyway you describe it -- what do you think ?
Sy
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Re: BMDs for LAMONT, Blackcraig, Minnigaff
« Reply #19 on: Friday 30 March 12 01:52 BST (UK) »
The causes of death for William's wife and children are:
Martha (aged 26) - Phthisis Pulmonalis
Peter (aged 3) -Tabers Mesentierican - tuberculosis of lymph glands in stomach usually from drinking milk of infected cows
Margaret (9 months) - Consumption
(so unsure if any/all of these relate to lead  :-\)

His father William died from injuries received in an accident.
His mother died from 'right hemiplegia with apoplexia' so she appears to have had a stroke - also on the cert as causes of death are bedsores and insanity. Whether the insanity was due to lead poisioning or the stroke, I'm not sure. I am in the process of trying to find out more about this.

Interesting to learn about clearing the land of slag before planting the trees. The father William was a labourer/ag lab on a couple of censuses, so possible he was working in areas contaminated with lead. On other documents he is a wood forester.

Going back a generation, HIS father (also William) was a lead miner. I have no information about him, I haven't been able to find his death so don't know what he died from, but he appears to have died before 1841.

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Re: BMDs for LAMONT, Blackcraig, Minnigaff
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 07 August 12 00:50 BST (UK) »
I would just like to add to this post in case anyone in the future comes across it while researching this Lamont family.

I have obtained some information about Margaret (Blain) Lamont who died in the Southern Counties Lunatic Asylum on 30th July 1874. Anyone who is interested is welcome to contact me.

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Re: BMDs for LAMONT, Blackcraig, Minnigaff
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 11 February 15 17:29 GMT (UK) »
I just started working on my Family tree and came upon this forum for my Lamont's...thank you all for so much information!! I would love to know more about  Margaret (Blain) Lamont and the Lunatic Asylum..thanks again for all your hard work!


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Re: BMDs for LAMONT, Blackcraig, Minnigaff
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 11 February 15 22:41 GMT (UK) »
Hello BarlissFamily. Welcome to rootschat and my Lamont thread!  :)

The Lamonts are my husband's ancestors, so you and he must be distant cousins. His line is through William and Margaret's son Peter b 1838 in Minnigaff.

May I ask how you are connected to this family? 

I am a bit rusty on the Lamonts as I haven't worked on them for some time, but I will dig up all my notes and get back to you later. :)

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Re: BMDs for LAMONT, Blackcraig, Minnigaff
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 11 February 15 22:52 GMT (UK) »
My line is through Peter b 1838  as well...from what I have is Peter had a son Thomas(1859)...Thomas had a son Thomas (1897)...Thomas had a daughter Alexia (Lamont)1924..and Alexia had Carol (my mother) 1943...Im new to all this so pls bare with me....I would LOVE anything you have on Margaret Blain in the asylum...or anything else I might have wrong here...thanks so much for your time and help!

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Re: BMDs for LAMONT, Blackcraig, Minnigaff
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 11 February 15 23:19 GMT (UK) »
Hi again. Yes, I have your Thomas on my tree (but born 1858 rather than 1859 which I probably estimated from his age on the census). My husband's line is through Thomas's sister Margaret b 1862. She married Thomas Wright from Cheshire and they lived in Liverpool.

Although I do have your Thomas I do not have any descendants for him (my tree is incomplete).

After you have made three posts the Personal Messaging system is enabled and we can exchange information that way.

I have to pop out in a minute but will get back to this later.  :)

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Re: BMDs for LAMONT, Blackcraig, Minnigaff
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 11 February 15 23:27 GMT (UK) »
Well this should be #3..I look forward to hearing from you!!

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Re: BMDs for LAMONT, Blackcraig, Minnigaff
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 12 March 15 17:38 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ruskie, you wrote of your interest in Lamont families in Minnigaff area:
1851
Blackcraig
William Lamont 44 b 1807 Minnigaff labourer
Margt 40 b 1811 Glenluce
Jane 16 b 1835
Peter 14
Elizth 9
Lateshia 5
Wm 3
Jannet Polock 80 b 1771 mother pauper
Tateshea Blain (Polock) 43 b 1808 pauper
Here is an MI from Minnigaff with Lamont and Blain family names listed:
Erected by William LAMONT
In memory of his father William LAMONT who died 30th May 1874 aged 62 years,
also his mother Margaret BLAIN who died 30th July 1864 aged 60 years,
also his wife Martha BLAIN who died 6th Dec 1876 aged 27 years,
also his son Peter who died 12th Dec 1876 aged 2 ½ years,
also his daughter Margaret who died 12th Jany 1877 aged 9 months,
also Thomas BAILLIE who died 3rd Dec 1937 aged 67 years.

Any good, do the names fit anywhere?

Sy

Hi all

I have in my tree a Janet Lamont (born c1872?) daughter of William Lamont (ploughman) and Martha Blaen (deceased) who married David Kelly Galloway at Glenshalloch in 1905. She is also buried at Minnigaff with her husband as I found her headstone when I visited a few years ago.

David Galloway was my G-G-uncle. I am not looking for any info on them, just thought people might be interested in the next generation of Lamonts.

Kirsty
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