**COMPLETED** Bertha GLOVER born 1833 Wittersham, Kent arrived Sydney 1837

[Caryn_1]

Am looking for information on the first marriage of my 3xgreat grandmother Bertha Glover. She married for the first time somewhere around 1850-1852 to a Mr Tandy - most likely I think in the Denham Court area of Sydney.

When Bertha re-married in 1853 to Stephen King, she was listed on that marriage certificate as being a widow.

I have been so far unable to find any records or information relating to her first marriage and would like to be able to identify her first husband and trace any descendants.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Thank you.

[Neil Todd]

 ???Hi Caryn_1

I cannot find any marriage in NSW for your Bertha....

How did you get the certificate and if you have it what is the number on it.
Could we have Berthas parents names also and any other siblings please.
Neil

[muss]

hi
 this may help researchers

 http://www.geni.com/people/George-Glover/6000000012459371394

Muss

[Caryn_1]

Hi Neil

The marriage certificate for Bertha is from the NSW BDM. She is listed as Bertha Tandy marrying Stephen King in 1853. On the marriage certificate is states her as being Bertha Tandy - widow married on 30 May 1853 to Stephen King - widower. Marriage Certificate Number 153 Vol. 39C.

On Stephen King's death certificate it states Bertha's name as being Bertha Tandy formerly Glover.

I suspect because the first marriage occurred before registration became compulsory (which was 1856), it may well be difficult to find.

Thanks for your help.

[Caryn_1]

Hi Muss

Thanks for this info. Will compare to what I have although it seems to be slightly different to some of the data I have, but quite useful. Many thanks.

Cheers

[Caryn_1]

Sorry Neil, just realised I forgot to mention Bertha's parents  .

Father's name was George Glover and mother was Amelia Gorham. Bertha was born 3 years before her parents were born in 1833 in Wittersham, Kent, England. Arrived in Australia with the family in 1837. Younger brother George born 1836 also in Wittersham.

Brothers Henry born 1838 and Theodore 1839 after arrival in Australia.

Cheers
Caryn

[Neil Todd]

Hi, Funny that there is no mention of marriage or death in NSW records. Are you sure that this marriage was in NSW.

There is a William Tandy died in 1845 but this would only make Bertha 12 years old. Also if they were married in NSW no children were recorded under either Tandy or Glover.

Did you know that Amelia Glover died in 1839, quite possibly from complications with Theodores birth. Which also is not recorded at NSW BDM. His death in 1883 is. Gets stranger by the minute. But not if you know that some records from churches never made it to the transcribers and even then, some were never done.

Neil

[Neil Todd]

Hi Caryn, there is a possibility that George remarried fairly quickly after Amelia's death in 1839 as there is a marriage between same name and a Herriott G Champion.

A little unusual! But no death recorded for her but there is one for a Harriet J Glover 1909. Possible transcription errors, maybe....

Neil

[wivenhoe]

Can you expand on some of the information you are giving please -


"...She married somewhere around 1850-1852 to someone named Tandy - I think in the Cabramatta area of Sydney.


Why do you believe that this marriage might have been in Cabramatta area?

At the 1853 marriage, Bertha, aged ~20, would have been recently widowed?.

Can you give all the information on the marriage certificate please?

It might be the same church as the first marriage, also any children born of the earlier marriage might be on same church baptism record.

Do you have a death certificate for Bertha King, formerly Tandy, nee Glover?

I am not seeing a NSW death for Bertha King, parents George and Amelia.

Was there a third marriage for her?

When did Stephen King  die?