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Re: LESEBERG & BRUNKE
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 12 April 14 04:13 BST (UK) »
Index to Wills, Probate and Administration Records 1841-2009
http://prov.vic.gov.au/index_search?searchid=54

You need to be patient when downloading the digitised files....very slow.

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Re: LESEBERG & BRUNKE
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 12 April 14 06:45 BST (UK) »
Cando thank you so much for the link at PROV
I was asking my OH "how many acres are there now"
due to roads etc there is less land.

The Old Hotel does have 8 rooms which includes the bar, dining room and parlour.
The kitchen is detached and when I first went there they cooked in the open fire and had no running water.

Wow ;D ;D

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ARTHUR -Yorkshire - my brick wall
HINCHCLIFFE/HINCLIFE -Yorkshire -2nd brick wall
HAWES -Cornwall
SIMPSON -Yorkshire Kildwick.
VINEN - Wiltshire -convict
SALT - Hungerford
BURROWS - Edinburgh -convict.
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BAXTER -Scotland -Fife
WATSON - Scotland Dunino
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LESEBERG - Salzgitter Germany
BRUNKE - Salzgitter Germany

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Re: LESEBERG & BRUNKE
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 13 April 14 13:51 BST (UK) »
Hello Spices,

nice to find you here in this forum.

August Leseberg was an musician.

At the offical Website of the town Salzgitter you can find something about the history of the
Salzgitter Wandermusikanten.

https://www.salzgitter.de/stadtleben/kultur/stadtgeschichte/wandermusikanten.php

I tryed to translate it in english, hopefully it`s not to bad.

Traveling musicians (Klesmer)

The salzgitter traveling musicians, the Klesmer, were known in the 19-th century nearly all over the world. They played at prince's courts and in ruling houses just as in inns, on the street or in the campfires of the gold diggers in America and Australia.
Already before 1800 there were some musicians in Salzgitter Bad - after the Napoleonic time the number started to rise by leaps and bounds. The 'Klesmern' offered in times of economic need of a growing number impecunious Häuslinge, Tagelöhner and small craftsman a chance to earn money.

The first musicians united to harp chapels. The smallest occupation was a harp and violin, a flute or song sometimes arrived. Besides brass bands, at the beginning of quartets, after 1820 soon also formed bigger entertainment chapels. The repertoire was depending on skill and education state the musician and reached from home Rn and folk songs with the smaller street chapels up to potpourris and Ouvertüren with the big choirs.

The first salzgitter musicians of 1790 till 1812 travelled around merely the narrower native country or the Northwest-German space. These trips needed no special financing. Already in the next place could become 'geklesmert'. Also Denmark, Norway and Sweden were still reached on foot or by the level car. The chapel Dammeyer was the first one which moved in 1813 to Russia. Many other chapels followed them. Some played at the czar's court and the courts of other princes. Only the music ban after the murder of the czar in 1881 finished the concert activity of the salzgitter choirs in Russia.

The first oversea land which the salzgitter musicians travelled around since 1812 was Mexico. Mostly the east coast was the purpose, however, there were chapels which did not avoid the dangerous ship passage around cape horn to appear in the west of South America. But also North America and Australia belonged quite early to the destinations. Even China, Japan, India, Arabia and South Africa were travelled around. These destinations had to be planned overseas carefully and be prefinanced. Businesspeople of Salzgitter and above all banker Sievers spended the musicians with clothes and the necessary travel money from. As soon as profits had been won, one sent bigger sums to Salzgitter to pay off the debts and to support the all those at home.

Many of the salzgitter musicians had own language, the so-called Klesmersprache. Expressions from the Rotwelschen and the Flat-German interfered with foreign-language elements from the travelled around lands. It was no own language, but referred, primarily, to music, traveling, trade supervision, salary, food and drinking. Till 1890 this language was absolutely alive in Salzgitter, however, with the disappearance of the salzgitter Klesmer the language also fell into oblivion. By the amount of 'mechanical' music and the chances to earn money in the industry the number of the Klesmer had become meaningless at the latest after the First World War.

Nowadays to honor of the salzgitter traveling musicians the annual Klesmerfestival with ensembles takes place on the place Klesmer in Salzgitter Bad from all over the world.

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Joerg


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Re: LESEBERG & BRUNKE
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 13 April 14 22:52 BST (UK) »
Thank you Joerg what a find.
You say AUGUST was a musician so does that mean father and son were both travelling musicians.

I will spend some time reading your information.


ARTHUR -Yorkshire - my brick wall
HINCHCLIFFE/HINCLIFE -Yorkshire -2nd brick wall
HAWES -Cornwall
SIMPSON -Yorkshire Kildwick.
VINEN - Wiltshire -convict
SALT - Hungerford
BURROWS - Edinburgh -convict.
Husbands side
BAXTER -Scotland -Fife
WATSON - Scotland Dunino
SERVICE - Paisley Renfrewshire
LESEBERG - Salzgitter Germany
BRUNKE - Salzgitter Germany


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Re: LESEBERG & BRUNKE
« Reply #22 on: Monday 14 April 14 03:32 BST (UK) »
Joerg why is it called
Salzgitter Bad    What does the BAD stand for please

Spices
ARTHUR -Yorkshire - my brick wall
HINCHCLIFFE/HINCLIFE -Yorkshire -2nd brick wall
HAWES -Cornwall
SIMPSON -Yorkshire Kildwick.
VINEN - Wiltshire -convict
SALT - Hungerford
BURROWS - Edinburgh -convict.
Husbands side
BAXTER -Scotland -Fife
WATSON - Scotland Dunino
SERVICE - Paisley Renfrewshire
LESEBERG - Salzgitter Germany
BRUNKE - Salzgitter Germany

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Re: LESEBERG & BRUNKE
« Reply #23 on: Monday 14 April 14 08:37 BST (UK) »
The city of Salzgitter exists of seven places which consist of a total of 31 parts of town.

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Salzgitter_subdivisions.svg

Salzgitter-Bad is one part in the south of Salzgitter.

Joerg
Heckendorf in Posen and Australia