HERON, Gilbert Jr and REID, Lilly Jane

[Northern Jo]

We are looking for information, photos and/or contact with descendants of Gilbert HERON Jr (April 21, 1853, Logie Buchan - May 28, 1941, Chapel of Garioch) and his wife Lilly (Lily) Jane REID (October 14, 1868, Banff - August 1, 1951, Keithhall).  We know that Lilly was Gilbert's third wife.  He married first in 1879 to Helen MATTHEW (1854 - 1890) and had children Gilbert, James, John, Ann, Eliza-Bella and Jessie-Jane.  He married second in 1892 to Ann MILNE who was quite a few years his senior.  They had no children together although Ann had children prior to the marriage (James CHEZNE, b1861; John MILNE, b1863; William McRAE, b1866 and Alexander COWIE, b1869).

Gilbert married third on December 2, 1908 to our great grandmother Lilly Jane REID and they had two children, Elsie (1909 - 1998) and William (1911 - 1984). 

It is known that Lilly had four illegitimate children prior to her marriage to Gilbert ~~ Lilly Jane Meldrum REID (father unknown; 1891 - 1984), Lizzie Ann REID (our grandmother; father unknown; 1892 - 1957), Mary Ann BARTLETT (father: James Bartlett, not married to Lilly Jane; 1898 - 1986) and Charles Coull REID (father unknown; 1906 - 1988).

Gilbert was the son of Gilbert HERON Sr and Ann CRAIGHEAD and had siblings Ann (Annie), Jane, Elspet, James, John and George.  Lilly Jane was the daughter of William REID and Margaret REDFORD/REIDFORD and had siblings Mary Ann, Margaret, Christian (Christina), Elspet (Elsie), William, Alexander, Barbra (Barbara), Catherine, Helen, Annabella, Jessie, Robert, Eliza and Robina. 

We have obtained many birth/marriage/death records for Gilbert, Lilly and their siblings through ScotlandsPeople but cannot seem to find much on their descendants.  From what our mothers have told us, our grandmother would not speak about her family when asked.  After reviewing all of the information that we have managed to gather we think she may have been embarrassed about her mother's illegitimate children (and also the number of cousins in the Reid family who were illegitimate -- last count was a total of seventeen!!). 

Any and all information that anyone can provide us on these families would be greatly appreciated including any of the family members --- we may already have the information but a second verification of things is better than not receiving anything.  Contact with the descendants of Gilbert's children and step-children from his first two marriages would also be appreciated as they may be able to shed some light on Gilbert and Lilly too.

Joanne

[flst]

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[Northern Jo]

Thank you flst ..... we are trying to learn more about our great grandmother, Lilly Jane (nee Reid) Heron and her family.  Our grandmother would not talk about the family left behind when she and her husband emigrated to Canada.  My mother and her sisters (all now deceased) can remember asking if there were aunts, uncles and/or cousins in Scotland and, apparently, grandma would very promptly change the subject and ignore any further questions asked.

What information I listed below, has been gleaned from documentation purchased via ScotlandsPeople.  We knew nothing of any of them until we started very in depth research and buying the documents.  As we obtained more, we have found some Reid descendants from family that went to Australia but even they haven't been able to provide anything on Lilly Jane and her family.

So, my query is trying to learn more about Lilly Jane, where she lived, what she did and what became of her, her husband and her children.

Joanne 

[flst]

There are several family trees on ancestry for your great grandparents. Have you seen the census entries for Lily Jane Reid, prior to her marriage to Gilbert?
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[Northern Jo]

Yes, flst, I have found what we assume are census records for Lilly and some of her children as well as the one for 1911 which includes her, the legitimate children, her husband and some of the illegitimate children.  It appears, however, that our grandmother, Lizzie Ann Reid (born 1892), did not live with Lilly in 1901 or 1911.

The family trees on Ancestry which show our grandparents and great grandparents have been uploaded by myself, a cousin, a distant relative in the United States and those distant relatives I've mentioned who live in Australia so we have shared between us what little information each of the others know.  We are still trying to find out about Elsie and William who were Lilly Jane and Gilbert's children.

Joanne