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Ultimate brick walls
« on: Wednesday 23 April 14 14:59 BST (UK) »
Please take this as a compliment, you are my last hope  :-*

I'm updating the information of the soldiers listed on the Hanham War Memorial and church plaques.  Previous work by other sleuths have come up with nothing on these names, but that was before t'internet.  The two problems:

First one: M Attwood

No family, no regiment, no age, nothing.  The only glimmer is that his name is on the Christ Church plaque  :'(

Second one: W G Robson

Absolutely diddly squat to go on.  This name is solely on the War Memorial.  There is no past documentation for the memorial itself either.

All request to the good folk of Hanham has not brought forth anything.

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« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 23 April 14 15:38 BST (UK) »
Is there any indication as to which war they were involved in?

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« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 23 April 14 15:48 BST (UK) »
Petits pois  ;D missed that out

First World War - most of them were born around the mid 1890s -all boys together  :(

Weston/Wesson, Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire & Leicestershire
Merriman - Stanford on Soar, Canada & Australia
Antill and Wood-Antill, in Mountsorrel, Leicestershire, Caernarfonshire, Canada & New Zealand
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Curtis
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Locker
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Langsdale
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Bamford
Newbold
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Jones, incl Broster Jones and Tyzack Jones
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« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 23 April 14 16:37 BST (UK) »
Hmm, not finding any likely entries in either the 1901 or 1911 censuses.  There was a Norman Attwodd born and living at Ashchurch, Gloucs in the 1911 census and a W G Robson born Cheltenham living Sheffield in the 1901 census.

Can't find either in the Commonwealth War Graves site - it could be though that they survived long enough to be repatriated to England and died some time later so as to not be in the CWG records.

Intriguing.  Shame there's no info on the war memorial.


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« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 23 April 14 16:42 BST (UK) »
There are only two M Attwoods on the CWGC site who died in WW1.

Morley Abraham  Attwood was serving with the Canadian Mounted Rifles, but his attestation papers show that he was born in Bristol, and his  mother   sister was still living there:

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« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 23 April 14 16:48 BST (UK) »
Morley Atwood was living is living in Hanham with his family in 1891 and listed as born there(b1876)
RG12 Piece 1941 Folio 81 Page 1

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« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 23 April 14 17:24 BST (UK) »
Fab, Morley Attwood he must be  :D

I didn't know that there are attestation papers on rootschat  8)

Thank you very much indeed
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Richards
Elwin
Locker
Robinson
Langham
Langsdale
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Newbold
Dobie - Dumfriesshire & Co Durham
Jones, incl Broster Jones and Tyzack Jones
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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 23 April 14 20:04 BST (UK) »
I can't find a Morley Attwood on the CWGC site of the right age, there is one who was in the 4th Canadian Mounted Rifles Battalion but his age is give as 23 at his death in 1916 meaning that he was born 1893.

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« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 23 April 14 20:31 BST (UK) »
The attestation papers gives his birth year as 1893 which ties in with the CWGC death details - 2/6/1916, recorded at the Ypres (Menin Gate) Memorial.  The attestation papers gives his birth place as Bristol so is unlikely to be the one remembered on the Hanham memorial.

The Morley Atwood living with his family at Hanham in 1891 can't be the above person.  This is likely to be the person remembered on the memorial but no other Morley Atwood or Attwood appears in the CWGC records as far as I can see.  I can't find any death record for him in the UK which I think would have happened if he had been wounded abroad and repatriated to die of his injury(ies) here.  Very strange.