Joel Rowsell - have hit a dead end

[Sharon01]

There is another Joel that was born in 1797 & baptised in 1802 at St Mary, St Marylebone Road, parents Aaron & Ann Rowsell.

Sharon

[Eyesee]

Joel's marriage at St Margaret Rochester from City Ark confirming his father as Richard

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0a5f/

Hackney St John
Richard ROWSELL, bachelor, otp
Sarah SNOOK, spinster, otp
Married after Banns 9 Sep 1805
Both made their mark in presence of Soloman Taylor, Benj. Crook

Ian C

[ShaunJ]

The only wife I've noticed in the censuses is an Elizabeth !

She first appears in 1871 aged 45 and they are listed with two children Emily 12 and Charles F, 6, and a niece Ann (?) Brotherwood aged 17.  EDIT - I think this is Agnes Brotherwood born Hadlow Kent circa 1853/4

Joel consistently states his birthplace as Middlesex, but is inconsistent about the parish - sometimes St Giles or St Martins or St Stephens

[Mauritius123]

I am unable to find them on the 1871 census on Ancestry - where were you looking?

[ShaunJ]

Look for Joel Ramsell

[Eyesee]

The Joel ROWSELL born 1822 died in 1854. His father was William, born 1790 London, whose father Joel born 1764 came from Somerset

There is a Richard ROWSELL, born 1783 in Somerset, whose father was Amos ROWSELL, born 1761 in Somerset, and who is a brother to the Joel born 1764. Quite possible this Richard is the one who married Sarah SNOOK in 1805 and the father of Joel the Bookseller

Joel born 1764 was a Nurseryman in Enfield and died there in 1844.

From a tree on A******Y

Ian C

[toni*]

becuase i had type this out i will post it anyway

09.05.1805 Richard Rowsell m. Sarah Snook at St Johns Hackney (after banns bach, spin, BOTP both made their mark and wits Soloman Taylor, Benj. Crook)
17.06.1806 Joel Roswell was christened at St. Mary, Lambeth, Surrey, the son of Richard & Sarah Rowsell.
1851 Joel Master Bookseller aged 42 b. Middlesex St Giles lodging at 20 Great James Street St Andrews Holborn (which would suggest he didn’t have his own shop because would you own a shop and not a house? If he owned a shop wouldn’t he live upstairs?) 
1861 Joel at 9 King William Street aged 50
1871 Joel at 55 Lawford Road St Pancras aged 60. with wife Elizabeth aged 45 and 2 children Emily 12 and Charles F aged 6 and a niece Ann Brotherwood aged 17
1881 Joel  Master Bookseller  aged 70
24.06.1886 died, will 30 July 1886 possibly buried Highgate cemetery

Joel was a Whittingtonian and also belonged to The Athaneum club. – do these have records ?

Where was he between birth & 1851 ? have you got Richard & Sarah on the census or their deaths ?

There is another Joel that was born in 1797 & baptised in 1802 at St Mary, St Marylebone Road, parents Aaron & Ann Rowsell. What happened to him it is important to know not to confuse things.

If Joel went to sea then possibly his records are held at The National Maritime Museum in Greenwich it would be easier to find records if you know which ship he sailed on.
 
If Joel married Elizabeth and they had a child Emily aged 12 in 1871 it wouldn’t be unreasonable to suggest they married in the 1850’s

30 July 1886
Rowsell Joel personal estate £3,467 19s 1d   
The will of Joel Rowsell late of 3 Caversham Road, Kentish Road in the County of Middlesex who died 24 June 1886 at 3 Caverhsam Road was proved at the Principal Registry by Elizabeth Farrant of 19 Argyle Square Kings Cross in the said County Spinster  the sole executrix.

Have you got details for his bookshop from directories? (historicaldirectories.org) he could be listed pre 1851

[ShaunJ]

This obituary fragment says that he spent his early years at sea but gave up after being thrice shipwrecked. Will try to find the full obit.

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=wGNIAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA16&img=1&pgis=1&dq=%22joel+rowsell%22&sig=ACfU3U2FJ3gastNz39Q6_p-Q9xcO2-Zc-A&edge=0

[ShaunJ]

The full obit is in this text archive but it takes ages to load  http://www.archive.org/stream/bookmartamonthl01unkngoog/bookmartamonthl01unkngoog_djvu.txt