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Charles William Peach and Helen Hutchinson Garner
« on: Thursday 02 October 14 21:21 BST (UK) »
Charles William Peach, born Scotland 28 July 1872, died New Zealand 5 April 1949 married 1905 in New Zealand Helen Hutchinson Garner, who died 29 July 1952 in New Zealand aged 79. Both interred in Kelvin Grove Cemetery, Palmerston North.

I would like to know whether they had any children - there are none listed in the NZ birth indexes online. Also exact date and place of marriage, places of death, and date and place of Helen's birth. She isn't in the NZ online births and if she was born in Britain she was not registered with the middle name.

I have tried the historic BMDs online, and also Papers Past, but have not found the information there. Can anyone suggest a further line of enquiry that I could pursue from the other side of the world?
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Re: Charles William Peach and Helen Hutchinson Garner
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 02 October 14 21:44 BST (UK) »
The marriage

1905/6850   Helen Hutchinson    Garner to   Charles William    Peach

The date was 12/6/1905

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Re: Charles William Peach and Helen Hutchinson Garner
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 02 October 14 21:54 BST (UK) »
There is an address on the burial record



Surname PEACH
First Names HELEN HUTCH
Gender Female
Occupation WIDOW
Address 158 BROADWAY AVE
 Denomination Presbyterian
Age at Death 79Y
Date of Death 29/07/1952
Place of Death UN-KNOWN
Date of Interment 31/07/1952
Warrant Type BURIAL
Cemetery Kelvin Grove Cemetery & Crem
Area in Cemetery B
Cemetery Block 003
Plot Number 111
Head Stone
Book of Memories NO

Surname PEACH
First Names CHARLES WILLIAM
Gender Male
Occupation DOCTOR
Address 158 BROADWAY AVE
Denomination Presbyterian
Age at Death 76Y
Date of Death 05/04/1949
Place of Death  UN-KNOWN
Date of Intermen  07/04/1949
Warrant Type  BURIAL
Cemetery Kelvin Grove Cemetery & Crem
Area in Cemetery  B
Cemetery Block  003
Plot Number 113
Head Stone
Funeral Director  THOMAS GRIGGS & SON LTD

The only way to find out exactly where they died would be to purchase the deasth printout for them,this can be done by email using a credit card

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Re: Charles William Peach and Helen Hutchinson Garner
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 02 October 14 21:58 BST (UK) »
Thanks, Janette. I'm doing this for someone else so I'll have to ask if he's prepared to pay for death certs.

We're actually most interested in the question about children, if any.
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Re: Charles William Peach and Helen Hutchinson Garner
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 02 October 14 22:00 BST (UK) »
There is a probate for Charles held at the Wellington Archives,this may tell you about children

Palmerston North Probate files [second sequence]
AAOY 21078 W3298/478    0201/49 PEACH Charles William 1949 Wgtn

http://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=22982337

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Re: Charles William Peach and Helen Hutchinson Garner
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 02 October 14 22:03 BST (UK) »
Hi Forfarian,

I'll get the probate for you.

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ELLERKER - Beverley ERY ENG
HEALEY - IRL?
MURDOCH - Wigtownshire SCT, Otago and Westland NZ
PALING - Nottinghamshire ENG
RILEY - Flamborough; Cottingham; South Dalton ERY, Manitoba CAN, & London ENG
STURTON - Arnold, Nottinghamshire ENG
SUTTRON - All, NRY & DUR ENG
TAYLOR - London ENG
TYLER - London ENG
TERNAN/TIERNAN - Dublin IRL

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Re: Charles William Peach and Helen Hutchinson Garner
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 02 October 14 22:03 BST (UK) »
Also one for Helen

Palmerston North Probate files [second sequence]
AAOY 21078 W3298/488    0273/52 PEACH Helen Hutchinson    1952 Wgtn

http://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=22983568

You could start a new thread requesting a kind person to do a look up in Wellington for you

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Re: Charles William Peach and Helen Hutchinson Garner
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 02 October 14 22:06 BST (UK) »
The second file 'is unavailable and cannot be ordered'.

I'll try again another day.

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ELLERKER - Beverley ERY ENG
HEALEY - IRL?
MURDOCH - Wigtownshire SCT, Otago and Westland NZ
PALING - Nottinghamshire ENG
RILEY - Flamborough; Cottingham; South Dalton ERY, Manitoba CAN, & London ENG
STURTON - Arnold, Nottinghamshire ENG
SUTTRON - All, NRY & DUR ENG
TAYLOR - London ENG
TYLER - London ENG
TERNAN/TIERNAN - Dublin IRL

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Re: Charles William Peach and Helen Hutchinson Garner
« Reply #8 on: Friday 03 October 14 00:44 BST (UK) »
Both probates are available to view on Familysearch.

Ian C
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