Laura Bates - Bethnal Green 1871

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Request look up of 1871 census - Laura Bates born abt 1871 Bethnal Green fancy paper box maker.

I have found her living with brother (John C Bates) aged 25 1891 poster varnisher - 42 Hague Street South West Bethnal Green - St Andrews

I came across this part of the family as I was searching Sarah S Sheppard and she was living with John C Bates and his wife (Martha) and two sons (Sidney J and Albert C) and his sister Laura S aged 19 years in 1891

Would like to confirm parents of John C and Laura which means finding them in earlier census with their parents - so was suggesting look up 1871 census for Laura

Any assistance sincerely appreciated .................. Alison - Australia

[normamac]

Edward Bates   age 44 chair maker
Elizabeth  age 37
Edward age 9
Robert age 1
Elizabeth age 15
Emily age 8
Sarah age11
Caroline age 10
Laura age 3 months

Family living Hackney Road, Bethnal Green London . 1871 census

[Kay99]

John C Bates is listed as John Charles Bates when he marries Martha Warrington in 1887 in Shoreditch

Possible family in 1881 but no Louisa Laura S Bates https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X3L1-CFS   

I would if Louisa is actually the couples daughter Sylvera born 1872 with her birth listing Laura as a middle name   Sylvera Laura Bates Births Sep Qtr 1871   Bethnal Green 1c 270

Kay

Edit  - John Charles Bates Marriage?
John Charles Bates  22 Spouse Martha Warrington  Marriage Date: 30 Jul 1887   Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
Father:    John Bates
Spouses Father: James Warrington

[Kay99]

Just checked the image of the 1891 census for John C Bates and family.  Do you think his sister's name looks like Laura S Bates in terms of the middle intial

Kay

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Kay - yes Laura S which is what my original post says, so not sure why you thought Louisa  ..... A

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Normamac - not sure if this is correct Bates family - although it does have a young Laura

Laura was living with her brother John C Bates (who was 25 1891) so expect to see him with the family in 1871 but he is not there ............ thanks Alison

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I'm trying to find the link to John C Bates as Sarah S Sheppard who was living with him and his sister Laura S were cousins (according to 1871 census) - so I need to identify the parents of John C and Laura S Bates to find the connection to Sarah's Sheppard family    I think Sarah's mother was Mary Ann Bates so am thinking that father of John C and Laura S is Mary's brother

[Kay99]

Based on trees on Anc, which I think includes yours, the two Bates families don't seem to have an obvious connection.  Could Susan S Sheppard be a cousin of James C Bate's wife Martha Warrington??   

Martha's father - based on her marriage - was James Warrington.  However the 1851 census I think lists him a James Warrington Duff with wife Louisa b 1831 Shoreditch and there is a possible marriage in 1850 of a James Warrington Duff (father unknown) to a Louisa Sheppard in Bethnal Green   The marriage is online on Anc and lists Louisa as 19 of Crooked Billett? Yard and her father as John Shepherd General Dealer

Kay

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Kay - what a puzzle of information - the clue is Crooked Billet Yard, Shoreditch that got me interested it is very confusing because there are several Sheppard (Shepherd) families in the same area with similar names - the Sheppard family I am connected to is the timber merchant/wood cutter/wood chopper at 5 Crooked Billet Yard
1871 census usually relates the relationship to the head of house so I thought Sarah S Sheppard as cousin was to John C Bates
Not sure how I am going to unravel the clues, but thanks ............... Alison