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The Allens. St Helier, Jersey.
« on: Sunday 05 January 14 13:50 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I am trying to find information about the Allen family on Jersey. I have tried many of the sites given in this forum including Jerripedia, but to no avail.
I was wondering if someone could perhaps know if it is possible to find more on them.

1851 Census in St. Helier at 16 Le Geyt Street.

James Allen b. 1803 in Kinsale, Ireland
Wife: Mary Allen b.1815 in Kinsale, Ireland
Son: John Allen b.1847 St. Helier



By 1861 had James and Mary died probably around 1859-60 and John James Allen had joined the army in England.

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Re: The Allens. St Helier, Jersey.
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 05 January 14 13:57 GMT (UK) »
Is this the son in 1901?

RG13; Piece: 5313; Folio: 76; Page: 17.  St Helier, Jersey

John Allen           52    Gen lab      St. Helier, Jersey
Sophia Allen   49                     England
Charles Allen   15                     St Helier
Ernest Allen   13                     England
Frederick Allen   6                       England
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Re: The Allens. St Helier, Jersey.
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 05 January 14 14:01 GMT (UK) »
Yes "groom" it is them. Thank you for looking. I didn't want to involve other censuses of another generation in this thread.


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Re: The Allens. St Helier, Jersey.
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 05 January 14 14:01 GMT (UK) »
1891
RG12; Piece: 1249; Folio: 16; Page: 26 Bedford, Bedfordshire

John Allen      44      Gen Lab               Jersey
Sophia Allen   38                                London Middlesex
Sophia Blades   11 step daughter           Hampstead, London
Charles Allen   5                                  St Helens, Jersey
Ernest Allen   3                                  Lambeth London
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Re: The Allens. St Helier, Jersey.
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 05 January 14 14:03 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Have you completely ruled out the James and Mary Allen that are there in the 1861 census with a daughter Mary? I can see that his age doesn't tie up but Mary's is correct. Also his job as porter  is consistent. Added to that is they are from Ireland.

Just a thought.

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Re: The Allens. St Helier, Jersey.
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 05 January 14 14:05 GMT (UK) »
Thanks again. Same answer as before. Cheers. I believe to have all the family to present. It is just on Jersey I have problems with.
Thanks again.

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Re: The Allens. St Helier, Jersey.
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 05 January 14 14:08 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Have you completely ruled out the James and Mary Allen that are there in the 1861 census with a daughter Mary? I can see that his age doesn't tie up but Mary's is correct. Also his job as porter  is consistent. Added to that is they are from Ireland.

Just a thought.

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Hi Stewart.
Thank you for looking.
I haven't really looked that hard for John James Allen's parents because I know from somewhere that he joined the army at 14 after his parents had died. I have never heard of a Mary, but one never knows.

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Re: The Allens. St Helier, Jersey.
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 05 January 14 14:10 GMT (UK) »
Hi Stewart.
Can you tell me where you found that census so I can look it up. Cheers.

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Re: The Allens. St Helier, Jersey.
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 05 January 14 15:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ian

Just went in on Ancestry and searched Channel Island Census for a James Allen with a spouse of Mary - Piece 4393, Folio 70, Page 13.

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