Thomas Lyson Mayor of Oldham 1957-8

[millymcb]

Joshua License Birth

Birth: 12 NOV 1870     
Christening at   Hindley, Lancashire 09 APR 1871

Mother Elizabeth License - no father given on transcription



And in 1871 - Address: Chowbert?? Road, Hindley

Elizabeth Licence age 24, Unmarried (Cotton reeler) and son Joshua (age hard to read).
Living with her parents/his grandparents James Atherton (Cotton labourer) and Mary Atherton
Plus assorted other siblings all called Atherton


RG10 - Piece - 3890 - 154 - 3


So - is that YOUR Betty Lysons Young??

Milly

Milly

[millymcb]

and is this them in 1881?

at 787 Atherton road, Hindley


John Young   age 36 - head (washer?? coal mine)??
Betty Young   age 32 - wife
Joshua Young   age 10 - son   (Could this be Joshua License/Lysons?)
John Young   age 7
Thomas Young   age 5
Ellen Young   age 1
John Gaskell   age 28

RG11 - 3771 -  88 - 41 



Milly

[Mooncoin]

Just been looking at the Atherton connection I am sure that is another Betty Lysons .....hard to read.

My great grandfather is John Young 1848 Hindley Green died 1 2 1894 Hindley, married Betty Young we now think is Elizabeth Lysons.
can we connect Joshua Lysons father of Thomas Lysons to Betty.

The groom thing of John Young would be right

[Mooncoin]

oops no John Young was a steeplejack, could he have been a collier previously??

[Mooncoin]

I have a commemorative teapot made on John Young and Betty's wedding day .............Hindley 1877

[Mooncoin]

My god that is it Joshua Young is actually Joshua Lysons it's got to be..........fabulous

[millymcb]

Is it?


You've lost me with all this talk of teapots and steeplejacks


Let's go backwards just to check.....   

What marriage do you have for Betty and John and what were the occupations, address etc?


Milly

[millymcb]

Or do you only have the 1877 teapot as evidence of marriage?

because my theory is all based on a 1872 marriage

I can't see any 1877 marriages in Wigan area for John Young to a Betty or Elizabeth.

Could the teapot be a 5 year commemorative item?

And where does the steeplejack info come into the story?


Milly


PS - Just seen a tree on Ancestry that has Betty and the 1872 marriage and all the other info including Joshua (except that has two Joshuas instead of one)...   And there are a couple of others too.
One says that Betty Lysons father died when she was a baby and her mother remarried to Atherton...with Betty appearing as either Lyson or Atherton in various census.....  Are any of these trees yours?
None of them have the two Joshua's actually being the same person - but it looks very likely to me

 

[carol8353]

Why doesn't Thomas or his dad Joshua appear on the indexes of the 1911 census?