William John Charles

[magicnanny]

William John Charles 1896 10th Aug . I am having trouble finding this man for my husbands side of the family .  We  thought we had found him and worked backwards as you do to trace the family and found lots out  we thought he was from a mining family (a red herring)and now know his was a banker and his parents were publicans in  bracon i also know he died 1966 Dinas Powis Wales  can someone help me trace him back .
many thanks Magicnanny

[JJen]

Hi,

What were his parents names please? Also have you found him on any census?

JJ

[magicnanny]

 Hi ' No this is where we went wrong I dont know his parents and took a guess the one we found was him but it wasn't all i know is what I' have put on my post so any thing would be helpfull .

[JJen]

With you putting in your post that William's parents were publicans in 'Bracon' (Brecon?) I had hoped that you would know their names. 

JJ

[JJen]

Looking at the National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 for William John Charles, his widow was Charlotte Mary Charles.

There is a marriage of a Charlotte Mary Roberts to a William J Charles q1 1923 Machynlleth, Vol 11b Page 166, so a possibility?

I would be tempted to purchase the above marriage certificate to see if any details correspond with those you already know (age, occupation), this would then give you William's father.

JJ

[magicnanny]

 Yes thats sounds as if it is right we have a family Welsh bible and there is a Charlotte Mary  Roberts there  but the bible is  for his wife's family and walsh ,so there is not much information on William we are trying to put the bits together . A relative said they remenber about the pub but just can't remenber their names as they were very young at the time  thanks again magicnanny

[JJen]

This may be of interest to you -

1901 -

Daniel Charles   31 b. Vau, Carmarthenshire, Coal Hewer
Margaret Charles    28 b. Vau, Carmarthenshire
Willie John Charles   4 b. Llwyngnia, Glamorgan
Margaret Ann Charles   4 b. Pontypridd, Glamorgan

RG13 Piece 5017 Folio 132 Page 17, Primrose Street, Ystradyfodwg

If you have the means I would check out this family on the next census.

There is a death of a Daniel Charles -

Daniel Charles
Birth Date - 1870
Date of Registration - Jun 1943
Age at Death - 73
Registration District - Brecknock
Vol 11b Page 71

Probate - Daniel Charles of 'The Siddons' High Street, Brecon died 31 May 1943, widow Margaret Charles.

Having put 'Siddons' into a search engine there is a pub called Sarah Siddons, 47 High Street, Brecon.

Food for thought 

JJ