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Boliver - Selattyn/St. Martins
Hinton - Whitchurch/Ightfield
Parry - Hanmer/Bronington
Clarke - Barnsley/Lancaster
Clegg - Rochdale/Lancaster
Owens - Llansannan
Lee - Malpas
Chaloner - Holt/Chester
Airey - Westmorland
Sadler - Shropshire
Gee - Holt
Benbow - Shropshire

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Re: Help with a word on a baptism please
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 04 May 14 10:15 BST (UK) »
I suspect it means "alias" - and in this case would be the maiden name of the mother.

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Re: Help with a word on a baptism please
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 04 May 14 12:11 BST (UK) »
Just wondering why the son then took on the name Saunders for baptism of his children but used Lea/Lee in the census?
Boliver - Selattyn/St. Martins
Hinton - Whitchurch/Ightfield
Parry - Hanmer/Bronington
Clarke - Barnsley/Lancaster
Clegg - Rochdale/Lancaster
Owens - Llansannan
Lee - Malpas
Chaloner - Holt/Chester
Airey - Westmorland
Sadler - Shropshire
Gee - Holt
Benbow - Shropshire

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Re: Help with a word on a baptism please
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 04 May 14 19:03 BST (UK) »
I suspect it means "alias" - and in this case would be the maiden name of the mother.

jds1949

thank you

Alias seems likely but I'm fairly sure the mother's maiden name was Marsh

also it's only in entries for this family that the als is used
Boliver - Selattyn/St. Martins
Hinton - Whitchurch/Ightfield
Parry - Hanmer/Bronington
Clarke - Barnsley/Lancaster
Clegg - Rochdale/Lancaster
Owens - Llansannan
Lee - Malpas
Chaloner - Holt/Chester
Airey - Westmorland
Sadler - Shropshire
Gee - Holt
Benbow - Shropshire


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Re: Help with a word on a baptism please
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 04 May 14 19:43 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Having looked again I can see that it is the only time that "als" is used - I still think that it is short for Alias - but not, as I have seen elsewhere, in this case referring to the mother's maiden name. Which would leave us with Saunders alias/also known as Lea - which would seem to imply that Job Lea, and his son John, used both names or were known by both names. Did the older Moses, John's brother, have any children, or appear on any other occasion in the parish records? Was there a Saunders family in the same neighbourhood? I'd be tempted to look for a connection a generation or two previously.

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Re: Help with a word on a baptism please
« Reply #5 on: Monday 05 May 14 00:28 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Having looked again I can see that it is the only time that "als" is used - I still think that it is short for Alias - but not, as I have seen elsewhere, in this case referring to the mother's maiden name. Which would leave us with Saunders alias/also known as Lea - which would seem to imply that Job Lea, and his son John, used both names or were known by both names. Did the older Moses, John's brother, have any children, or appear on any other occasion in the parish records? Was there a Saunders family in the same neighbourhood? I'd be tempted to look for a connection a generation or two previously.

jds1949

Going back from Moses baptised 1767 there are 3 generations I can find where baptisms are recorded as son of 'Saunders alias Lea' or 'Lea alias Saunders', with a Job and a Moses in each generation
I haven't added them to the tree yet as it was unexpected to find this odd name/alias combination
Boliver - Selattyn/St. Martins
Hinton - Whitchurch/Ightfield
Parry - Hanmer/Bronington
Clarke - Barnsley/Lancaster
Clegg - Rochdale/Lancaster
Owens - Llansannan
Lee - Malpas
Chaloner - Holt/Chester
Airey - Westmorland
Sadler - Shropshire
Gee - Holt
Benbow - Shropshire

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Re: Help with a word on a baptism please
« Reply #6 on: Monday 05 May 14 09:57 BST (UK) »
You might find this of some interest:

http://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Use_of_Aliases_-_an_Overview

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