George Hobson lookup please!

[Jennethood]

Hello,
Can anyone help or advise please? 
George Hobson, born at the Windmill Hills, Gateshead.  Reputedly on 20-06-1825.  As this birth is before  1837 how and where do I find out if this is his birthday and where exactly he was born, what were the names of his parents and how many siblings? His father was a grinder at one of the mills. George was sent to his grandfather at Harperley mills, Kyo near Catchgate at an early age because his mother, " ... taking a fever, I had to be taken out of the way." ( George's own words. ) His grandfather wouldn't part with him thereafter, and he stayed at Harpeley for the rest of his life. He died in 1905. He had brother called Michael, but were there any children?
Can anyone can throw any light on the subject as I don't know what to do next.
Jennet

[JenB]

Go to this site http://www.rootschat.com/links/05pr/
Select Durham, and then Gateshead 1823 - 1832.
In the box at the bottom of the page enter 104 and press go.
On the page that comes up you will see what looks suspiciously like george's Baptism.

George, son of Michael and Margaret Hobson of Windmill Hills. Father's occupation miller. Baptised 17th July 1825.

If you browse through the pages you may find other siblings.

Jennifer

[Ecneps]

Hello Jennet

A bit about the history of Windmill Hills here:
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DUR/GatesheadHistory/Ch3.html


George in 1851 census:

1851 census HO107/2389 Folio 160 Page 45
Harperley Mill, Kyo Laws, Durham
George Hobson  head m 26 Miller & Grocer emp. 2 men  Gateshead
Ann           "       wife m  23                     Stanley, Durham
Mary Jane  "       dau        4                    Harperley Mills Durham
Margt         "        "           1                          "
John Lumley     servt    unm 24 Mill Cartman  Holmside Durham
George Green       "      "   22 Miller            Halifax
   
    
The only Michael Hobson I could find in 1841/1851 but with wife Jane not Margaret - maybe Margaret died and he remarried?

1851 census  HO107/2402 Folio 95 Page 35
16 Russell Terrace, Gateshead
Michael Hobson head m 64 Proprietor of Houses
Jane Hobson    wife  m 63
Jane Hobson    dau   s  20 Dressmaker
all born Gateshead
   
1841 census  HO107/296/9 Folio 32 Page 13
Windmill Hills, Gateshead, Durham
Michael Hobson  50  Builder
Jane Hobson    50
Jane Hobson    10
Isabella Dow    30
all born in County Durham


Barbara

[Ecneps]

1861 census RG9/3730/31 Page 56
Harperley
George         HOBSON head m 35 Miller Grocer & Seedsman  Gateshead
Ann                    "      wife  m 32                  Tanfield
Mary Jane            "     dau      14                  Kyo
Margaret              "      "        11                    "
Ann                     "      "         9                      "
Georgiana            "      "         3                      "
George Robinson  "      son      1                      "
Michael                "  father wid 69 Formerly a miller  Durham (town not stated)
+ 2 servants
   
1871 census RG10/4956 Folio 36 Page 66
Harperley Mills, Kyo, Durham
HOBSON
George   head m 45 Miller Grocer & Farmer of 55 acres employing 2 men & 2 boys    Gateshead
Ann         wife m  42                        Tanfield
Ann          dau     19                         Kyo
Georgianna  "      13  Scholar              "
George R    son   11     "                     "
Isabella       dau    8     "                     "
Michael M    son     4                           "
Michael     father  78 Retired Miller   Whickham
+ 3 servants

[Ecneps]

Hi Jennet,

It's not looking as if I found the right Michael Hobson in 1851/1841 census, so will have another look!

There is this burial at St. Mary's Church, Whickham, Gateshead
  1819 Margaret Hobson late Robinson, age: 90, widow of Michael Hobson

and this marriage:
St. Mary   Whickham, Gateshead
 1751 Michael Hobson married Margaret Robinson

Looks much too old to be George's grandmother, so maybe his gtgrandmother, and maybe that's why he named his son George Robinson Hobson, after her maiden name?

Welcome to Rootschat, by the way!

Barbara   

[Ecneps]

This may be George's father

baptism St. Mary Whickham
1792 Michael Hobson, son of Michael Hobson & Mary

burial St. John's  Seaham Harbour
 24 Jan 1877 Michael Hobson, of Harperley Mills, Kyo, age: 85

2 possible baptisms for George's brother Michael?

 Chester-le-Street  St. Mary and St. Cuthbert
 1826 Michael Hobson, son of Michael Hobson & Margaret

 Chester-le-Street  St. Mary and St. Cuthbert
 1832 Michael Hobson, son of Michael Hobson & Margaret

1851 census HO107/2392 Folio 561 Page 69
Henry Street, Seaham Harbour, Durham
Michael Hobson   head m 59 Licenced to Let Post Horses   Ravensworth Durham
Margaret Hobson wife  m 47                     Lanchester
Michael Hobson      son   s 24 Grocer           Birtley
James A Wallace son.in.law m 26 Commission agent  Birtley
Mary Wallace    dau.in.law  m 27                Aighton Banks
Margaret I Wallace grdau     1  At home      Seaham
Elizabeth Humphrey visitor m 52 Cabinet Makers wife  Duram, Pensher
+ 2 servants
birthplace Ravensworth is about 3 miles from Whickham

1841 census HO107/311/5  Folio 36 Page 31
Henry Street, Seaham, Dawdon, Durham
Michal Hobson     45  L  M     (just initials, sorry)
Margret Hobson    35
Michal Hobson    14
all born Co. Durham


Barbara

[Jennethood]

Thank you Jennifer - That looks extremely promising! I will certainly have a look at the site - think i need to download an update first, though.
And thank you too, Barbara, The Kyo entries are definitely George - with wife and all his offspring by 1871.  I have seen the 1881 census - Ann has died and George has remarried - and his father must have died too.
I had thought George's mother was a Robinson - but the 1819 burial is too early, he was born 1825 and so how could she be a Robinson? - Ahhh, more questions!
Thank you both so much for all the information - I need to ponder!
Jennet.

[Ecneps]

Hi Jennet,

I see that Laurina has replied on your other thread and that she has a lot of information on George, so when she comes back online she may have all the answers!
Please come back when you've pondered and she's replied, to let us know the outcome

Kind regards,
Barbara
 

[Laurina]

Margaret Robinson married Michael Hobson on 13th Nov 1751 in Wickham, Durham – so this is the Margaret you are referring to who died in 1819. It was their grandson, also a Michael Hobson who was the father of George Hobson.

George's wife Ann died in 1875 and George remarried in 1877. George's father Michael died on 21 Jan 1877 and was buried on 24 Jan 1877

burial St. John's  Seaham Harbour
24 Jan 1877 Michael Hobson, of Harperley Mills, Kyo, age: 85

Regards Laurina