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Paisley parish baptism - Edwards
« on: Saturday 28 June 14 02:30 BST (UK) »
My 3x gt grandfather Samuel Edwards stated on the 1851 Liverpool census that he was born in Paisley, Renfrewshire in approx 1787.  I'm not totally convinced as the same birthplace was given for his wife Sarah who was definitely born in Wales!   but I'd really appreciate it if someone could check  the baptismal records for him in Paisley.
with many thanks   Alison Molineux, New Zealand
Shropshire :  Mullineux, Vaughan, Middle
Lancashire: Neale and variants, Edwards
Warwickshire: Lapworth
Devon: Hamblin(g), Cleverley, Jarvis
Oxfordshire: Castle, Haynes, Eden
Northants: Gibbins
Staffs:  Gilbert

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Re: Paisley parish baptism - Edwards
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 28 June 14 06:44 BST (UK) »
Family Search shows an Elisabeth Edwards born to Samuel Edwards (mother not recorded) in Paisley 3-11-1821. There is also a Samuel Edward (no "...s") born to Thomas Edward and Janet Fairlie at Greenock 17-6-1769. So there were folk of that name in the area.

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Re: Paisley parish baptism - Edwards
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 28 June 14 07:30 BST (UK) »
thank you that's really helpful.  In 1821 my 2x gt grandmother Ann Elizabeth was born to Samuel & Sarah in Liverpool so that 1821 Paisley record is not his but they have been such an impossible family to trace who knows!!


many thanks, Alison
Shropshire :  Mullineux, Vaughan, Middle
Lancashire: Neale and variants, Edwards
Warwickshire: Lapworth
Devon: Hamblin(g), Cleverley, Jarvis
Oxfordshire: Castle, Haynes, Eden
Northants: Gibbins
Staffs:  Gilbert

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Paisley lookup please: 1787 Samuel Edwards son of john & Elizabeth
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 01 November 14 18:16 GMT (UK) »
Hi there, I'm trying again :) to locate my mysterious 3x great grandfather Samuel Edwards who married in Wales in 1808 , lived in Liverpool, but is adamant in census records that  he was born in Paisley.

I now have his Flintshire marriage record which amazingly gives his parent's names - John & Elizabeth Edwards and confirms his birth year as 1787.  At the time he was "otp"  but there is no record of his birth in Holywell or neighbouring villages.

Please can someone help me break through this brick wall  by looking up the Paisley baptismal register  or advising me how I can obtain a copy from here in NZ.

With many thanks
Alison Molineux

Shropshire :  Mullineux, Vaughan, Middle
Lancashire: Neale and variants, Edwards
Warwickshire: Lapworth
Devon: Hamblin(g), Cleverley, Jarvis
Oxfordshire: Castle, Haynes, Eden
Northants: Gibbins
Staffs:  Gilbert


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Paisley baptism lookup please - 1787 Samuel Edwards son of John & Eliz.
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 01 November 14 18:19 GMT (UK) »
Hi there, I'm trying again :) to locate my mysterious 3x great grandfather Samuel Edwards who married in Wales in 1808 , lived in Liverpool, but is adamant in census records that  he was born in Paisley.

I now have his Flintshire marriage record which amazingly gives his parent's names - John & Elizabeth Edwards and confirms his birth year as 1787.  At the time he was "otp"  but there is no record of his birth in Holywell or neighbouring villages.

Please can someone help me break through this brick wall  by looking up the Paisley baptismal register  or advising me how I can obtain a copy from here in NZ.

With many thanks
Alison Molineux
Shropshire :  Mullineux, Vaughan, Middle
Lancashire: Neale and variants, Edwards
Warwickshire: Lapworth
Devon: Hamblin(g), Cleverley, Jarvis
Oxfordshire: Castle, Haynes, Eden
Northants: Gibbins
Staffs:  Gilbert

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Re: Paisley parish baptism - Edwards
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 01 November 14 18:22 GMT (UK) »
oops - so sorry!- didn't mean to post the above twice.    Alison
Shropshire :  Mullineux, Vaughan, Middle
Lancashire: Neale and variants, Edwards
Warwickshire: Lapworth
Devon: Hamblin(g), Cleverley, Jarvis
Oxfordshire: Castle, Haynes, Eden
Northants: Gibbins
Staffs:  Gilbert

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Re: Paisley parish baptism - Edwards
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 01 November 14 22:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ali
Searched scotlandspeople who have all the Scottish records (free to search but pay to view records if you've not seen it).
No birth coming up for Samuel Edward/Edwards 1770 - 1800 Renfrewshire - or in fact for the whole of Scotland!
Nothing on famsearch either.
Not to say he wasn't right - they could have been non-conformists, or that part of the register is missing etc, but looks more unlikely.
No marriage John Edward/Edwards Renfrewshire 1770 - 1790.
2 marriages John Edwards and Elizabeth 1770 - 1790, one marriage between 1780 and 1785  for the whole of Scotland. (You could narrow this down by the trying each county singly ......take a little time.....)
Good luck!
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Re: Paisley parish baptism - Edwards
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 01 November 14 23:18 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ali,
Where is Samuel on the 1841 Census and what is written in place of birth?
Looby :)

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Re: Paisley parish baptism - Edwards
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 02 November 14 03:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi Goldie 61,

thank you very much for doing that search. Samuel and his wife Sarah  were nonconformists as their later children were baptised at Benn Gardens Wesleyan in Liverpool (though the earlier ones were Cof E baptisms) I'll certainly follow up  those marriages - slowly!

and hi Looby - I wish I knew!   I cannot find them in the 41 census anywhere. Nor with any certainty any of their 6 children.  They were in Liverpool for the birth of their children from 1811 to late 1820s and in Liverpool for my gt grandmother's marriage in 1845 . In 51 they were in Toxteth park and so was Sarah in 61.  So I imagine that is where Samuel was in 41.  I have tried Welsh and Scottish 41 census also but nothing!

thanks to both of you for replying
Alison
Shropshire :  Mullineux, Vaughan, Middle
Lancashire: Neale and variants, Edwards
Warwickshire: Lapworth
Devon: Hamblin(g), Cleverley, Jarvis
Oxfordshire: Castle, Haynes, Eden
Northants: Gibbins
Staffs:  Gilbert