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Which Christopher!
« on: Tuesday 10 June 14 08:42 BST (UK) »
My ancestor was Christopher Venning who married Ann Westlake in 1823 at Laneast. I am having trouble determining his baptism. The censuses state that Christopher was born about 1790 in St Clether.

Unfortunately there are two baptisms for Christopher Vennings in St Clether in 1790. One the son of John and Jane (Ham) and the other son of George and Margaret (Marshall).

Other online trees and forum messages have Christopher mainly as the son of John and Jane. However I am not sure.

Ann Westlake and Christopher's children were:
John 1824 (went to South Australia)
Christopher 1826
Jane 1829 (went to SA and married Richard Jasper; my ancestors)
Edward 1831
Mary 1834
Elizabeth 1836
Joan 1838
Sarah 1840
Jacob 1841
Philippa 1843

The main thing that is making me doubt Christopher being the son of John and Jane is that George and Margaret Venning had a son Jacob. Nowhere else in the other Venning families can I find a Jacob Venning, that is closely related. The Jacob seems to come from Margaret's father, Jacob Marshall.

Another thing I think I should mention is that I believe John Venning and George Venning are brothers, sons of Edward and Salome (Colmer) Venning... so some of the names may be the same.

Any thoughts and opinions? Or anything else to shed some more light on things

Thanks
Blake  :)

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Re: Which Christopher!
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 10 June 14 11:32 BST (UK) »
Not proof I know but the first son and daughter were John and Jane. 
No George or Margaret which leans towards the other couple.  I don't think the name Jacob is significant one way or the other.

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Re: Which Christopher!
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 12 June 14 07:26 BST (UK) »
I thought I was getting good at figuring out this kind of stuff! How'd I miss that?

Thanks Millipede, that does make a lot of sense to me... I'll put the parents as John and Jane but add a note that they may not be. It ultimately doesn't affect the generations further back that I have previously researched.

Blake

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Re: Which Christopher!
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 12 June 14 08:48 BST (UK) »
Might be worth a look to see if any of the children or grandchildren of either Christopher have Marshall as a first or middle name.
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Re: Which Christopher!
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 12 June 14 10:10 BST (UK) »
That's a good idea, however I have had trouble tracking the children except for Edward, John and my ancestor Jane.

I can't find anything on the OPC or in the censuses  :-\

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Re: Which Christopher!
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 12 June 14 10:11 BST (UK) »
That's a good idea, however I have had trouble tracking the children except for Edward, John and my ancestor Jane.

I haven't managed to find anything on the OPC or in the censuses  :-\

Oops I meant to modify that message above not quote it... anyone know how to delete a post?

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Re: Which Christopher!
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 12 June 14 11:33 BST (UK) »
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Philippa 1843

Think she marries Arthur Peter in 1869 Launceston. 
In 1871 they have a daughter Mary 17 months.

In 1881 daughter Hannah is living with Venning family as a niece. 

Widowed by 1891 and living with son John and his family.  Occupation dressmaker.

Death for Phillipa Peter 1934 Launceston age 90.



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Re: Which Christopher!
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 12 June 14 11:46 BST (UK) »
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Sarah 1840
Jacob 1841

Just for info on the 1841 census Sarah has been changed to Jacob so maybe there was no Sarah.
Looking at it I have to agree plus the age is in the male column not the female column.

That's one less to look for!
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Re: Which Christopher!
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 12 June 14 23:09 BST (UK) »
I think you must be right about Phillippa.

And I've just looked back through the baptisms and there was no Sarah, but Jacob was actually baptised in 1840.

Also I think Jacob may have gone to America:
1880 Census
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MN4L-CCT?cc=1417683
1900 Census
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MMTW-WYH

I couldn't find any other Jacob's that fit in the FreeBMD and I couldn't find him in South Australia if he followed his brother and sister. So this is the best fit.

Blake