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Ann Daley murdered 24th july 1839
« on: Tuesday 26 August 14 02:48 BST (UK) »
Hi All
is there a inquest of a Ann Daley murdered 24th july 1839 or that is the date of inquest there is no registration of death NSW
murdered at Maitland or Paterson by John Gorman.
I am after a copy of inquest as I have to work out if this in my relative
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« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 26 August 14 03:06 BST (UK) »
This burial may be her:

Burial 1839

DALEY, UNKNOWN
District: Maitland, West Maitland, New South Wales
V183955 122A

Registrations of death did not start until 1856.

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« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 26 August 14 03:08 BST (UK) »
The Australian7Nov1839 http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/36863593 ( right- hand column)
John Gorman and John McBride were indicted, the former for the wilful murder of a woman named Ann, Daley, with whom he co-habited, and the latter for being present, aiding and abetting in the same, at Maitland, on the 21st July last. It appeared that on the day named the prisoner Gorman beat the woman, severely with a stick, the alleged cause of which appeared to be intoxication, from the effects of which she died. The evidence against McBride was anything but satisfactory, and he was acquitted under His Honor's direction. Gorman, guilty. Sentence of death was immediately passed on him.   

Also in The Sydney Gazette and New South Wales Advertiser 7 Nov1839 http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/2550012
MONDAY, NOVEMBER 4.
(Before the Chief Justice.)
John Gorman was indicted for the wilful murder of Ann Daley, at Maitland, by beating her with a stick, on the 21st July, and John M'Bride was indicted for being present aiding and assisting. The prisoner Gorman and the deceased had lived together, and frequently quarrelled. On the day laid in the indictment, while the woman was drunk, Gorman beat her so violently with a stick as to cause her death. McBride was present but took no part in it. The Jury found Gorman guilty, but acquitted McBride. His Honor passed sentence of death upon Gorman. 

The Sydney Herald 6Nov1839 http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/12860406 (right-hand column)
The Colonist 6Nov1839 http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/31723976 (2nd column lower half)

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Ann Daley murdered 24th july 1839
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 26 August 14 03:21 BST (UK) »
Thank you debra
that may be her burial I wish it had which part of Maitland.
I have all that horrible details of murder from trove I thought the inquest may mention her husbands name or some detail that can help me.I am not sure if she is my relative.
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« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 26 August 14 03:27 BST (UK) »
Hi All
another thing I would like to know is what happens to children when their parents are dead Sarah(daughter) was a witness to the murder and had to give evidence 8yrs old.Trove It was maitland NSW would they be put into foster homes or orphanage?
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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 26 August 14 07:00 BST (UK) »
The records on ancestry are the Registers of Coroners Inquests.  They don't have the actual inquests.  The register comes from State Records so I am guessing they will have the inquests.

Ann's record reads:
516 Paterson 24th July Anne Daly or Daley 10th August Coroner Murder? J Gorman.

If you PM me your email address I can email you the page.

Debbie
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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 26 August 14 07:17 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much for your help Debbie I now know where to chase it up
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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 26 August 14 10:16 BST (UK) »
Many libraries have library edition Ancestry for use in the library by library members. They have the same information as the subscription editions except for the family trees submitted by Ancestry members.

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Re: Ann Daley murdered 24th july 1839
« Reply #8 on: Friday 19 September 14 02:23 BST (UK) »
Hi All
have searched high and low and still cannot find the actual inquest emailed Paterson court house they told me state library they told me to try Maitland They told me to try other places but nothing.
I am trying to get some information of who Ann is if she was a convict if she was married to Thomas daley or maybe where she comes from.I would then know if she is my relative
silky ???
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