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Help please - Herts Baptism record 1748
« on: Tuesday 09 December 14 00:03 GMT (UK) »
Please would you help me decipher the place of this farm in Hertfordshire.

It is a baptism record from 1748 of Ann Wingfield from Tring, Herts.
Same record - second slightly enlarged.

Could it be Harrow??


Also - how close is this place to Rickmansworth, please.  (if it is Harrow I can find it on the map!! ;)   Can't find Tring)

Wiggy 

Edit - found Tring - it is a fair distance in those days!   Still wondering about Farm though.
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Re: Help please - Herts Baptism record 1748
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 09 December 14 00:26 GMT (UK) »
Hi Wiggy

It could be Hastoe - long s looks like and f.  It's to the south of Tring.

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Re: Help please - Herts Baptism record 1748
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 09 December 14 01:04 GMT (UK) »
I agree with Gadget, it does look like it could be Hastoe.  The bleed through from behind isn't helping with the clarity of the word. :-\

Its definitely not Harrow. ;)
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Re: Help please - Herts Baptism record 1748
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 09 December 14 02:16 GMT (UK) »
Wiggy - if you have access ...have a look at the christening record for Ann's brother Daniel (1750). It's a lot clearer and it does say :  Francis Winfield of Hastoe Farmer 

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Re: Help please - Herts Baptism record 1748
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 09 December 14 03:33 GMT (UK) »
Thanks one and all - I did think there was a long 's' but couldn't see anything which equated to it on the map - should have gone in closer.  Thanks for the link Gadget - makes it all sound very 'right/correct'.

Thanks Di -  and smudwisk - Harrow is definitely too far away.

Trying to trace an ancestor back - Ann Barns, widow,  was married to Patrick C/Kavenaugh in 1770  - so I tried to see if there was someone who married a few years before who might have been widowed, -  came up with Ann Wingfield being married to Edward Barns in 1764.   (she was baptised in Tring in 1748 and married in  Rickmansworth in 1765 (presuming it is the same person.)
Then someone called Edward Barns died in Rickmansworth a couple of years after he and Ann Wingfield were married in 1765,  so . . . . ..     ::) :-\ :-\ :-\ 
 
Then Ann Barns married in Rickmansworth in 1770 to Patrick K.

Not sure - but the dates fit - fatal assumption I know.    ::) ::)

So, trying not to do too much assuming, but still looking with her in mind. 

It is infuriating - I had that record up but didn't save it - now when I go back to FindMyPast to find it again it won't come up!      :'( :( :-\
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Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
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Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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Re: Help please - Herts Baptism record 1748
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 09 December 14 03:53 GMT (UK) »

... Ann Wingfield being married to Edward Barns in 1764.   (she was baptised in Tring in 1748 and married in  Rickmansworth in 1765 (presuming it is the same person.)

That would make Ann abt 16+/- yrs old at her marriage to Edward Barns in 1764
 - Have you seen this marriage record? Any other info on it ... like her being under age?

Any idea how old Ann C/Kavanagh was when she died? Would it fit with being born abt 1748?

Any WILLS for any of the deceased gents?

Just a few thoughts ...



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Re: Help please - Herts Baptism record 1748
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 09 December 14 06:43 GMT (UK) »
Any idea how old Ann C/Kavanagh was when she died? Would it fit with being born abt 1748?

Sorry - cancel that

Just noticed that Partic/k Kavanaugh died in 1777,
Ann Kavanaugh (widow) married in 1778 to William Boller/Boler (w)
William possibly died c. 1779/80 & Ann Boler died 1784
 - no ages given on any records I've seen

Looks like Ann was a well married lady  ;)
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Re: Help please - Herts Baptism record 1748
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 09 December 14 07:53 GMT (UK) »
These two Ann Wingfields were born in 1831 to John and Mary, and John and Susana  - I think

 - both in Rickmansworth,  but might she be a bit old - or a more reasonable age?  1731 - 1764 is quite old really - makes her 42 when she had 'our' Mary in 1773.  I do hate it when there are too many likely candidates all stepping up to the plate!

Thanks for those other finds - I'd not found them in my searching today. 

I believe to be married was to have some sort of security - probably the reason for the repeat activity - hells bells - doesn't bear thinking about does it??   ;D

Tricky isn't it!  How to prove any of this!      :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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Re: Help please - Herts Baptism record 1748
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 09 December 14 08:14 GMT (UK) »
I was trying to find any children for Ann and Edward - but no luck yet - anyhow she didn't have much time did she?

- I've found two births for her time with Patrick -  only William 1771 and Mary 1773 so far.

Just thinking aloud really.  Trying to assemble my thoughts.
Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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