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Re: Mary Edwards, born Cefn Mawr circa 1867
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 01 March 14 10:05 GMT (UK) »
There's also a Simon with banns in Wrexham/Brymbo in 1838 - that might be yours. I came across him while searching for mine.
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Re: Mary Edwards, born Cefn Mawr circa 1867
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 01 March 14 10:12 GMT (UK) »
The death of a Simon Jarvis in 1868 is  of interest in that it gives a estimated year of birth of 1807.The death of a Thomas Jarvis in 1888 with birthyear of c 1816 probably refers to a Thomas Jarvis who came to live in the area born in Dudley Staffordshire.

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Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
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Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
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Re: Mary Edwards, born Cefn Mawr circa 1867
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 01 March 14 10:16 GMT (UK) »
Though I have to say that whilst my comments about the death etc of Simon are of only perhaps of academic interest,it gets us nowhere on George and Mary Edwards!

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William Russell Jones.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
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Re: Mary Edwards, born Cefn Mawr circa 1867
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 01 March 14 10:19 GMT (UK) »
Three possibles for Mary on the 1881:

Mary E, 15, b. Rhosymedre  - in Ruthin
Mary, 14 b. Ruabon - in Vivod
-do- , -do- in Ruabon

Nothing much on George, so far

Will look further later today - off into my garden while the sun is shinning
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Re: Mary Edwards, born Cefn Mawr circa 1867
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 01 March 14 11:28 GMT (UK) »
The showing of the baptism of the Thomas Simon in 1816 may not be relevant.There is this Thomas Simon Lovatt showing in Liverpool in 1851 with mother Elizabeth,both given as born in Ruabon.
HO107/2185/144/66.

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William Russell Jones.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
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Re: Mary Edwards, born Cefn Mawr circa 1867
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 01 March 14 11:48 GMT (UK) »
George appears to be living with his parents in 1871:
RG10/2784/3/17
Lower Barracks, Halton, Chirk
George, son, widower, 30, coal miner, b. Chirk
Also there are grandchildren of Joseph and Sarah:
George, 8, b. Ruabon
Sarah, 7, b. Ruabon

I wonder if these are George's elder children and Mary was just too too young or the house was full. Lower Barracks houses were quite small, as I remember. 

Baptisms, Ruabon ~
27 Jan 1863 George Jarvis s/o Lydia Jarvis of Rhosymedre
10 Sept 1865 Sarah Edwards d/o George (collier) and Lydia of Rhosymedre
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Re: Mary Edwards, born Cefn Mawr circa 1867
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 01 March 14 11:57 GMT (UK) »
This might be George's burial
April 26 1873, Ruabon, by Coroner's order - George Edwards, Rhosymedre, aged 33.

Presume a mining fatality - will check on the mining site.
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Re: Mary Edwards, born Cefn Mawr circa 1867
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 01 March 14 12:10 GMT (UK) »
Just been into my library site -
Full report in Wrexham Advertizer, May 17th 1873
Explosion at The Green Pit on 24th April - inquest held at the Eagles Inn, Rhosymedre -
Deceased: Richard Thomas, 22; George Edwards, 33; Joshua Davies, 34; Griffith Hughes, 35; (fireman); John Jones, 16; Edwaard Williams, 28; peter Darlington, 18, assistant fireman. Others were all given as colliers.

It suggests that George was responsible for boring the hole and it wasn't drilled deep enough so the powder blew out and ignited and they all got burned.

So many mining deaths that I've read about  :'(
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Re: Mary Edwards, born Cefn Mawr circa 1867
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 01 March 14 13:47 GMT (UK) »
Thought that my Ruabon Registers only went to 1837 but now found the later ones, all neatly filed away!

21 August 1838 Simon Jarvis, labourer of Ruabon and Mary Williams of Rhosymedre (servant, minor)
Parents - Thomas Jarvis, stonecutter and John Williams, mason.

Then back a while:

June 12 1803 Thomas Jarvis  and Sarah Jones 

No obvious baptism for Simon.

Odd - the early baptisms with parents Thomas and Sarah have Thomas as a shoemaker ???
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