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Meaning of Latin Occupation
« on: Monday 30 June 14 10:14 BST (UK) »
I would be grateful if anybody is able to tell me what the occupation, in various forms, is on the attached image. They are from Llanfwrog 1700-1720.

On one page, baptisms in 1713, several have the same occupation.

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David

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Re: Meaning of Latin Occupation
« Reply #1 on: Monday 30 June 14 10:24 BST (UK) »
byrsa is a Mediaeval Latin word for leather, so the occupation must be connected with it.

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Re: Meaning of Latin Occupation
« Reply #2 on: Monday 30 June 14 11:39 BST (UK) »
Greek býrsa a skin, hide

It seems that  býrsa and bursa are closely related/same words, from Greek into Latin

Medieval Latin, from bursa means “purse” eg ārius is a suffix and masculine (āria would be feminine, and ārium neutral)

bursārius

    a bursar,  treasurer of a university, college or school.
    a purse-maker
    a person who takes bribes

So certainly it can be associated with animal hide, if the person was a purse maker, however the word seems to be associated more with money
Leicestershire:Chamberlain, Dakin, Wilkinson, Moss, Cook, Welland, Dobson, Roper,Palfreman, Squires, Hames, Goddard, Topliss, Twells,Bacon.
Northamps:Sykes, Harris, Rice,Knowles.
Rutland:Clements, Dalby, Osbourne, Durance, Smith,Christian, Royce, Richardson,Oakham, Dewey,Newbold,Cox,Chamberlaine,Brow, Cooper, Bloodworth,Clarke
Durham/Yorks:Woodend, Watson,Parker, Dowser
Suffolk/Norfolk:Groom, Coleman, Kemp, Barnard, Alden,Blomfield,Smith,Howes,Knight,Kett,Fryston
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Re: Meaning of Latin Occupation
« Reply #3 on: Monday 30 June 14 15:09 BST (UK) »
Thank you for the replies,

From what you have said, I suspected that he was a tanner, who may also have made finished articles, including bags and purses.

One of the people in 1713 had the surname of Sherlock, which would be uncommon in that area, so I looked back through some earlier records and he had the same occupation in 1702, 1704 and 1705 but in 1698 he is recorded as a tanner. At this time, the records are in a different hand and perhaps less understanding of Latin.

Thank you for pointing me in the right direction.

David


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Re: Meaning of Latin Occupation
« Reply #4 on: Monday 30 June 14 18:51 BST (UK) »
http://hdl.handle.net/10107/428164

Bangor Probate Records,
Simon Sherlock : bond, 1765. 

Unfortunately not a will, but he was of Llanfwrog. Possibly had a wife Martha .
 I think as this is in Bangor it may be Llanfwrog , in Anglesey ???
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Re: Meaning of Latin Occupation
« Reply #5 on: Monday 30 June 14 22:07 BST (UK) »
Not sure if it's relevant, but the Welsh for tanner is barcer
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Re: Meaning of Latin Occupation
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 01 July 14 10:04 BST (UK) »
Thank you for pointing out the Simon Sherlock bond.

He actually died in 1754 and I suspect that Martha was his daughter, born in 1713.

It sounds as though she was the wife of John Roberts and died before administering the will of her father.

David