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I only found this site this week, posted a few messages and could not believe the response, brilliant.
I would like to help anyone with look ups at Flintshire Records Office. Please supply me with as much info as possible.
Paul.
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hi paul what a lovely offer i,m stuck on the parents of joseph thelwell or thelwall he was baptised 20/1/1800 hamner im new to this site and what a great find scouser
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Hi Paul,
I have a couple of outstanding items I've been meaning to tie up for a while. Perhaps you could help when you have some time spare.
All I have is the ages from various census', so I'm looking for baptisms/christenings for the following:
Caroline Isobel Crompton, b: 1830 in Buckley
Georgiana Crompton, b: 1831 in Buckley
George Frederick Crompton, born 1833 in Buckley
Their parents were Rev. Samuel Gilbert and Clara Crompton.
As their father was the minister/vicar/priest in Buckley at the time, I dare say he conducted the ceremony. If you can find out the name of the church that would be excellent.
Thanks
D ap D
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hi paul what a lovely offer i,m stuck on the parents of joseph thelwell or thelwall he was baptised 20/1/1800 hamner im new to this site and what a great find scouser
Hi Scouser,
Found this in the Hamner Baptisms;
Jan, 26, 1800; Joseph Thelwald, son of Joseph & Eliz
Jan, 2, 1803; Thomas Thelwell, son of Joseph & Eliz.
Dec, 1, 1805 Jane Thelwall, daur of Joseph & Eliz.
Dec,28, 1808; John Thelwall, son of Joseph & Eliz.
Hope this helps,
Paul.
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Hi Paul,
I have a couple of outstanding items I've been meaning to tie up for a while. Perhaps you could help when you have some time spare.
All I have is the ages from various census', so I'm looking for baptisms/christenings for the following:
Caroline Isobel Crompton, b: 1830 in Buckley
Georgiana Crompton, b: 1831 in Buckley
George Frederick Crompton, born 1833 in Buckley
Their parents were Rev. Samuel Gilbert and Clara Crompton.
As their father was the minister/vicar/priest in Buckley at the time, I dare say he conducted the ceremony. If you can find out the name of the church that would be excellent.
Thanks
D ap D
Baptisms St Mathew's Buckley;
William Henry; b,Feb 19; bap, Feb 27, 1825.
Caroline Isobel; b,Sep 30; bap,Nov 2, 1826.
Georgina; b, May 20; bap,July 30, 1828.
George Frederick; b,May 20; bap,Oct 5, 1832.
Clara Frances; b,March 7; bap,July 16, 1834.
All Children of Samuel Gilbert & Clara (Down) Crompton.
William, Caroline & George Baptised by S G Crompton, Curate.
Georgina by Henry Jones, Vicar of Northop.
Clara by John Hill, Curate of Broughton.
Hope this is of some help.
Paul.
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Excellent Paul - what a fast response!
Not only the exact dates, which is what I really wanted, but also the name of the Church, which I've been trying to find for AGES. and to top it all, ANOTHER offspring.
However William Henry must have popped his clogs quite handy, as there is no further record of him at all.
Don't suppose there's a chance you could look up burials for him at all?
Great stuff,
D ap D
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thanks paul that did help i dont suppose you could find the marrige for his parents john and elizabeth so i can take the line back further scouser :-*
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Scouser & D ap D,
I'll see what I can do next time,
Paul.
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Could I also jump in for a look up please
In 1871 in Battery Row Greenfield Holywell I have
Richard Evans age 44 born Holywell Flintshire
Mary Evans age 41 " "
Louisa Evans age 19 " "
John Evans age 12 " "
William Evans age 11 " "
Richard Evans age 4 " "
Anna Evans age 2 " "
next door is
David Evans age 74 Abergelly Denbighshire
Catherine Evans 80 Holywell Flintshire
What I would like to know if possible is any baptism dates for the above, any other children for Richard and Mary (as there are big gaps between the children) I think Marys' maiden name was Roberts so if you could find a marriage ;D
And is it possible that David and Catherine could be Richards parents?
Anything that you can find out will be great. thanks
Donna
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Hi Donna,
I hope to get to the archives next week, I'll have a look.
Do you have Richard & Mary in Woodside Houses on the 1881 Census.
Paul.
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I do thanks and then back at Battery Row in 1891 which is a bit strange then in 1901 Richard is living with his unmarried daughter in New Road Holywell. I think I have his death in Dec qtr 1901 still in Holywell.
I haven't done much with this branch yet as I can't get to Wales as easily as Liverpool to do the research maybe this is the push I need.
Donna
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Been looking on IGI and have found these
Chapel Street Congregational or Independent Holywell
Elizabeth Evans b7 jun 1824 father David
Richard Evans b18Jun 1826 parents David and Cathrine baptized 2 Jul 1826
Susannah 1836 father David
Not sure if this is helpful
Donna
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thanks paul that did help i dont suppose you could find the marrige for his parents john and elizabeth so i can take the line back further scouser :-*
Hi scouser,
I had a look, but could not find a marriage of Joseph & Eliz,
in Hamner. Sorry mate.
Paul.
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Excellent Paul - what a fast response!
Not only the exact dates, which is what I really wanted, but also the name of the Church, which I've been trying to find for AGES. and to top it all, ANOTHER offspring.
However William Henry must have popped his clogs quite handy, as there is no further record of him at all.
Don't suppose there's a chance you could look up burials for him at all?
Great stuff,
D ap D
Hi D ap D,
Had a look in the Buckley Burials for William, nothing I'm afraid. Be glad to help with anything else you might have.
How about a Photo of the Church? if I can get my mate to nip up with his digital camera, it's only 5 or 6 miles up the road.
Paul
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hi paul thanks anyway they must of married somewere else,scouser :(
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Been looking on IGI and have found these
Chapel Street Congregational or Independent Holywell
Elizabeth Evans b7 jun 1824 father David
Richard Evans b18Jun 1826 parents David and Cathrine baptized 2 Jul 1826
Susannah 1836 father David
Not sure if this is helpful
Donna
Hi Donna,
Had alot to do today for other people, you came of far the best.
Marriage; 22/2/1822, David Evans to Catherine Jones Marriage;22/6/1850, Richard Evans, Greenfield, Father; David (Labourer) To Mary Jones, High St, Father; William(Shoe maker).
Marriage;19/2/1853, Thomas Evans, Battery Row, Father David(Carter) To Mary Owens, Greenfield, Father, John (Cotton Spinner)
Baptisms; Parents
29/6/1851; Louisa Alice, Richard & Mary. Battery Row
9/12/1855; Walter William, " " Bagillt St
20/4/1861; Richard, " " High St
Parents
19/3/1854; Amelia, Thomas & Mary, Battery Row
18/5/1856; John David " " "
29/8/1858; Maria Elizabeth " " "
1/8/1860; Grace " " "
17/9/1862; Henry " " "
8/2/1864; Thomas Henry " " "
17/8/1866; Edward " " "
4/5/1868; Thomas Henry " " "
1/2/1871; Mary Anne "" " "
Parents
29/9/1822; Thomas David & Catherine
8/3/1829; Mary " "
All Evans, just to save me time.
What do you think, let me know?
Paul.
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Thanks very much for that I have just logged on at work on a night shift and found your message. They look very promising don't they. Were they at Chapel Street congregational?
There was a Thomas listed on the 1871 a few houses down from Richard and David so thought he might be another son but didn't want to assume being Evans and Wales ;)
So it looks like Richard and Mary had a Walter William that died as he is not on any other census and used the name Richard more than once as my Richard was born in c1866. Will have to get looking for deaths to confirm.
Bagillt street rings a bell as well but not sure why. very frustrating as my file is at home and I am at work :-[
Will have to organize a trip to Flintshire records sometime
Donna
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How about a Photo of the Church? if I can get my mate to nip up with his digital camera, it's only 5 or 6 miles up the road.
Many thanks for your time and your offer Paul. Since you gave me the name of the church, I've found a photo on the Clwyd FHS site.
Much appreciated anyway.
D ap D
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Thanks very much for that I have just logged on at work on a night shift and found your message. They look very promising don't they. Were they at Chapel Street congregational?
There was a Thomas listed on the 1871 a few houses down from Richard and David so thought he might be another son but didn't want to assume being Evans and Wales ;)
So it looks like Richard and Mary had a Walter William that died as he is not on any other census and used the name Richard more than once as my Richard was born in c1866. Will have to get looking for deaths to confirm.
Bagillt street rings a bell as well but not sure why. very frustrating as my file is at home and I am at work :-[
Will have to organize a trip to Flintshire records sometime
Donna
If you're in work again....why are you reading this and not working?lol
Just a quick Burial; 26/4/1879; Catherine evans, age 89, Battery Row.
Paul.
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Paul
What can I say mums and babies on the postnatal ward were very obliging and all slept at the same time thus enabling me to log on and check messages. They never stay quiet long enough to get serious research done though ;)
Donna
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Hi Paul
Thanks for the offer.
I have a a missing ancestor, Ann Whitley, born 23 Jan 1848 at Bridge End, Hope near Caergwrle in Flintshire. According to the birth cert her parents were John Whitley, a publican, and Ann, formerly Jones. I can find no record of any marriage but would appreciate any census details of the whole family particularly for 1851/61/71 (By 1881 she was living in Birmingham) I understand that 1841 census sheets for Hope area were lost.
Russell
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Hi Russell
Here is something for you to think about;
1851 Census
John Whitley; 39, Tool Grinder. Born. Hope
Ann, 36, ""
Thomas, 5 ""
Ann, 3 ""
Hannah, 1 ""
Hannah Gibbons; 13, Serv ""
Baptisms
25/1/1846; Thomas, Son of. John & Anne, Bridge End. Labourer
5/3 1848; Anne, Dof, Same as above
18/11/1849; Hannah, """""
4/1/1852; Mary, """"
This is the same Family so why is John a Tool Grinder on the Census but a Labourer on the Baptisms?
I did find a John Whitley Publican, Caergwrle but he is Maried to Eliza. This is their Childrens Baptisms.
6/5/1855; Mary Jane
5/11/1856;Adelaide,
6/12/1859; Margaret.
Please let me know what you think?
Paul
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Paul, I'd be grateful if you could look in the 1871 census for Rebecca Piercy(born Hope 1850) and her daughter Emily. Many thanks Jean
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Hello Jean,
Did Rebecca have a Husband? was she Married in Hope? did she have other Children?
If so I'll look at Marriages and Baptisms.
I'll be going to the Archives this Week.
My dad lived in Hampshire when he was a lad, Gosport.
Paul
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Hi Paul,
Rebecca Piercy was born in Hope in 1850. She married James Lamb in the December quarter of 1874 and they had several children( Martha, Elizabeth, Selina, James, Thomas, John, Leonard and Bertha Louisa). However, I believe Rebecca had a daughter Emily before the marriage. I think Emily was born in 1870, hence my request re the 1871 census. I'd like to know who Rebecca's parents were and when Emily was born etc etc.
I have found an Emily J Piercy in the 1881 census age 11 living with Grandparents who might be the Emily and family I'm looking for.
Thanks for your help Jean
P.S. I'm originally from Mold
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Hi Paul
Thanks for the information. As you have gathered it raises as many questions as it has answered!!
I am wondering if John remarried Eliza.. could just be possible judging by the dates of the baptisms.Could I ask for some more info?
1. Were John and Eliza on the 1851 census as well as John and Ann? What were their addresses?
2 Can you access the 1861 census to see what that throws up?
3 Where were the baptisms?
4 Can you find any marriage between John and Ann (?Jones) or John and Eliza in Hope/ Caergwrle?
Thanks for your help. This is the first chink of light on this branch of my family tree!!
Russell
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Hi Paul,
Next time you go to the records office could you please check if they have any information on the children that were in St Clares Convent, Pantasaph 1900-1906 (my gran Mary A Brown and her sister Margaret E Brown) were both in there during this period.
Any information would be a help, I have written to the convent but with no luck.
Thank you
Jackie
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I too have WHITLEYs of Caergwrle but not much to go on. Sarah Ann WHITLEY married John BOWEN 7 March 1864, both their residence are given as Holt, both have fathers named Edward, and both fathers are labourers. Wittnesses to the marriage were Arthur Davies and John Harrison.
I have John and Sarah Ann in the 1901, 1891 and 1881 census. All in Birkenhead by this time. All give Sarah born Caergwrle c1845 (though her marriage certificate gives 1841 as her year of birth) and John born Farndon, Cheshire c1844. Their children were Henry BOWEN c1864 Farndon, Jane BOWEN c1867 Farndon, Margaret A c1870 Abermondoa, then from 1878 the rest are born Birkenhead, they also have a nephew living with them in 81 and 91 Edward WHITLEY c1882 Cefmpbedd.
I have tried looking for them in the 1871 but with no luck as of yet, Cheshire or Flintshire and can't get my hands on the 1861 yet.
Long shot I understand but any help or advice on these would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks and regards,
Lisa
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Hi..what a kind offer. Any chance you could find any info on EDWARD FISHER- ag lab who was married to Ann Brookes, both from Bronington Flint. They had a son George in 1838, who was born there. Any help would be great
cheers Ronnie
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hi paul.. yes definitely Bronington, it is near hanmer and sometimes comes under wrexham or ellesmere. George fishers birth cert is from reg district ellesmere/sub district hanmer/county of flint..place of birth given as bronington in the parish of hanmer.(1838) on multimap its just off the a495,and to the right of hanmer(if you excuse a silly way of putting it)
thanks ronnie
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Thanks Paul, I didnt expect to hear from you so soon.No, I dont have info about :
Edward and family on 1851/61 census
George and twin brother's marriages..that was a big surprise seeing that! ,
but I do have George on 1871 Wales census(assuming Ive got right one(with wife Sarah and children George and William and William Roberts)
I cant thank you enough, its a great help and another step forward(or should that be backward?)
Cheers Ronnie :
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Hello Paul,
Would you be able to look up a marriage and death for William Jones, born Whitford Flint in 1830 and his wife Harriet( nee Jones) born Cilcen Flint in 1831.
Hope you can help, from Maureen.
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Hello Paul,
Thanks for your reply. It could be the William and Harriet Jones I am looking for, I haven't come across the Pierce before so I can't be sure at the moment. I do have them on the 81/91 and 1901 census.
from Maureen.
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Hello Maureen,
Sorry, I could not find a Marriage for William & Harriet in Holywell Parish Records, they might have had a Civil Marriage or Married out of the Parish.
I did find the Burial of a William Jones of North View Villas,
Greenfield, on September 12 1903 age 73.
Could this be your William?
Hope this helps.
Paul.
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Hello Paul,
Thanks for your reply
I think it could be the burial of the William Jones that I am looking for, I hope so as he is my Great grandfather. Did you find that information at the Records office. Did it mention any other details?
thanks again from Maureen.
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Hello Paul,
Thanks for your reply
I think it could be the burial of the William Jones that I am looking for, I hope so as he is my Great grandfather. Did you find that information at the Records office. Did it mention any other details?
thanks again from Maureen.
Hello Maureen,
Yes, I did find the information at the Records office and no, it did not give any other details of William's Burial.
I did have a quick look Today for Harriet's Baptism in Cilcin and Son's Richard's and Rogers Baptisms in Holywell but did not see anything. If you can give me some more info I will be glad to have another look.
Paul
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Hi Paul,
Have just come across your kind offer. As I'm an Aussie, it would be brilliant if you could check the following for me:
On the 1881 census, I have my widowed gggrandmother Mary Martin living with her son, the Rev. William Lockwood Martin, then Vicar of Bettisfield, in the dwelling Arrowry in Hanmer, Flints.
Three questions:
1. Could you check to see if there is a burial of Edward Martin, Mary's husband, in Hanmer in around 1873/1874? If so and you can give me details, I can send for the death certificate.
2. Does the Flintshire Record Office have any property details that tell us whether the Martins bought, or were renting, the dwelling Arrowry?
2. I presume Hanmer is close to Bettisfield - is it?
Thanks,
MarieC
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Hi again Paul
Would you mind looking in the local newspapers, if they have the Chester Chronicle or Flintshire Leader for 1904 please?
James Lamb, 57, a greengrocer from Buckley died at the Infirmary, Chester after falling from a cart on Daisy Hill on 7th October 1904. There was an inquest at Chester on 7th.
I've made enquiries but it seems the records have not been kept so I wondered if it had been reported in the local newspaper. Thanks Jean
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Hi Paul,
Have just come across your kind offer. As I'm an Aussie, it would be brilliant if you could check the following for me:
On the 1881 census, I have my widowed gggrandmother Mary Martin living with her son, the Rev. William Lockwood Martin, then Vicar of Bettisfield, in the dwelling Arrowry in Hanmer, Flints.
Three questions:
1. Could you check to see if there is a burial of Edward Martin, Mary's husband, in Hanmer in around 1873/1874? If so and you can give me details, I can send for the death certificate.
2. Does the Flintshire Record Office have any property details that tell us whether the Martins bought, or were renting, the dwelling Arrowry?
2. I presume Hanmer is close to Bettisfield - is it?
Thanks,
MarieC
Hi Marie,
A note in the index of Parish Records for Hanmer;
Two Regesters lost Church destroyed by fire in1889.
Burials 1784, Marriages 1787-1813 former replaced by Burials from Bishop's transcripts now held at Chester Records Office.
Burials from 1856-84 and Marriages 1837-88 also disappeared.
If you have another look on the 1881 Census for Mary and William.... have a look at previous and next Household
there are several dwellings called Arrowry. I think it must have been a row and not just one dwelling.
Hanmer is close to Bettisfield, they always come next to each other on the Census
Sorry I could not help.
Paul.
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Hi Paul,
Thank you very much for trying, anyway! It is disappointing, but can't be helped.
Just had a thought. I don't suppose he could have been buried from the Bettisfield church where William was Vicar? Next time you are at the Records Office, could you check that? Just my last hope....!
I was working from the LDS transcription of 1881 so didn't realise about the adjoining dwellings also being Arrowry. This is interesting, as is also your confirmation of the proximity of Hanmer and Bettisfield.
Thanks again,
Marie
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Hi Paul
Could you help with the following for me.
looking for the birth of MAry Morris Father listed as Richard Morris she was born according to 1851 census holywell about 1820-1830 married liverpool in 1851.I dont have any other information on them so hoping you might me able to help.
Fifer :)
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Hi Paul
Could you help with the following for me.
looking for the birth of MAry Morris Father listed as Richard Morris she was born according to 1851 census holywell about 1820-1830 married liverpool in 1851.I dont have any other information on them so hoping you might me able to help.
Fifer :)
Hello Fifer,
Had a look for the Baptism of Mary Morris Father Richard but unfortunately could not find Her.
I did find Edward Morris son of Richard & Mary Morris Baptized 8 November 1829. Richard was a Plasterer.
Did she have a Brother Edward?
Paul.
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Hi Paul
I havent a clue if she had a brother Edward i only know she married Fishwick Hatton in Liverpool and her father was listed as Richard on the Certificate im still trying to trace her on 1841 census but not having any luck.But thanks for trying.
Fifer :)
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Hi have just found this site, and wonder if you can work a miracle for me? I am searching for my Callaghan family from around Liverpool / St helens. Have John Patrick Callaghan who is shown as born Flint/Liverpool/Ireland, depending on which census you want to look at. around 1844.
What would really help is if you can find the birth of his son Thomas Callaghan b. C 1866 Flint Flintshire. Mother Phoebe (Scotland???)
Have a marriage cert for Phoebe Scotland and John Patrick for October 1865 in Liverpool. but not too sure if I am on the wrong track altogether.
Any help would be appreciated.
Cheers
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Hello, How kind of you to offer lookups. When you have the time I wold appreciate a lookup.
I have John PRICE bc 1801 Pontblyddyn, Flintshire married to Elizabeth bc 1809 in Burton, Denbigh
All their children were born in Hanmer starting with Ambrose baptised 28 Nov 1824
If possible I would like a marriage between John/Elizabeth and a possible birth date for John
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Hello Aynsley,
I found a John & Elizabeth Price with Children Ambrose, Mather, John and George on the 1841 and 51 Census living in Hanmer. John is a Wheelwright born in Ellesmere Shropshire and Elizabeth is born Hanmer so I'm not sure if it is the Family you are looking for.
Paul
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Great stuff, yes thats the ones, could you give me the details, I am very greatful. Mather will be Martha and I have John and george too
Thanks
pauline
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Hi Aynsley,
I thought it must be them only the birthplace put me off.
Hanmer 1841
John Price. 45. Wheelwright.
Elizabeth. 40.
Ambrose. 15.
Martha. 13.
John. 8.
George. 6.
All born of this Parish except John snr.
Hanmer 1851.
John Price. 54. Wheelwright. b, Ellesmere, Shropshire.
Elizabeth. 42. b, Hanmer.
Martha. 24. ""
John. 18. """"
George. 16. """"
Sivian? Thomas. 21. Wheelwright Journeyman. b, Penley, Flints.
Samuel Jonson. 26 Lodger. School teacher b, Whitchurch, Shropshire.
Do you have Martha, John and George's Baptisms?
Paul.
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Hello
Thankyou very much that is great. Yes thanks I do have have the baptism. its a nuisance with birth places, each record says soemthing different so you don't really know the truth
Pauline
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Hi again
Sorry to be a nuisance. Any sign of Ambrose Price in 1851 bc 1824 Hanmer
Just noticed the birthplace of John, Shropshire - lol, both census I have says Pntblydden but the occupation Wheelright is the same plus the ages and children so i am sure its him
Pauline
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I'll see what I can find.
Have you got Ambrose, John and George on the 1881?
all Carpenters or Joiners... chips of the old block.
John is the only one still in Hanmer.
Is there anything else you want in Hamner?
Paul
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Hi
Yes thanks I have then right through to 1901, it was the early ones I was missing.
Still missing Isaac from the 1841 and 51, he was born c1826 in Hanmer, hoping he might be with a grandparent and I have an Elizabeth bc1849 in Allington Denbigh who was with John in 1881 who wasn't on the 1851.
Unless of course I am on the wrong track and there were two Johns who were Wheelwrights - lol
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Hi,
Could you please have a look for the siblings of Sarah Williams, christened 1819 in Hanmer. Her pearents were Thomas and Margery.
Thanks,
Stephen Tippin
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Hi,
Could you please have a look for the siblings of Sarah Williams, christened 1819 in Hanmer. Her pearents were Thomas and Margery.
Thanks,
Stephen Tippin
hear is the children of Thomas and Margery williams
John chris 23/11/1806
Mary chris 30/12/1810
Elizabeth chris 13/6/1813
Charles chris 14/7/1817
Sarah chris 15/8/1820
James chris 20/3/1823
audrey
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Paul, perhaps you could give kmomma a hand?
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,63680.msg258825.html#msg258825
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Hi Paul,
I wonder if you are still so kindly doing lookups at the Flints Record Office.
I have a family of Williams's that are driving me mad, have spent the last 4 years on them and im still no further along. (im also in Australia so i cant get to the records centre myself! )
The information i have is
Thomas Williams bn 1851
Robert Williams bn 1841
and William Williams 1847
All born to a Thomas Williams and Mary ? in 1871/81/91 Mary is at New Quay holywell as a widow - but i cant find the family before then on the 1861 or prior. (son william 24 is there in 1871, son thomas 41 is there with her in 1891)
have tried to get roberts birth from gro three times but he's not down for 1841, 42, or 43 (there are robert williams' but none of them have thomas and mary for parents)
I really would appreciate any help with these guys if it is possible.
Thanks so much in advance
Tammy
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Hi Tammy,
I should be going this week I'll see what I can find.
Paul.
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If you are still doing look ups at the Flinshire records office and Denbighshire can be searched I would be grateful (but not hopeful) if you could search for a birth of my GGGGrandfather James Lee born 1800 Denbighshire.
I have him on the 1841 census in Pulford Cheshire aged 40 Farmer not born in county. On the 1851 census aged 51 Farmer born Gresford, Denbishire (as it was spelt) Then no more after that.
Any help gratefully recieved
Thanks
LibbyW
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Hi Libby,
The Records Office hold Baptism, Marriage & Burial records not Birth & Death records.
I think it's better when you are not hopeful and you find who you are looking for here he is.
Gresford Baptism 17 November 1800.
James Lee S/O John. abode Crosshowel.
Early records don't give you much information some have Mothers Name or Fathers occupation I'm told it depends on the Vicar.
I also found other Baptisms of Lee Children with a Father John.
25 Dec 1790. Alice. abode Burton.
9 Jan 1793. Thomas """"
9 Jan 1797. Richard. Crosshowel.
12 Aug 1798. Samuel. Burton.
14 Nov 1803 Edward. """""
11 Aug 1805. Elizabeth. """"" Mother Alice.
5 Jan 1808. Lydia """ """"" "" Fathers Occ Farmer.
Do any of these ring any bells?
Paul.
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Absolutely brilliant. James Lees baptism. Thank you so much.
As to his possible brothers and sisters mmmmmmmmmmmmm not sure. James names 4 of his own 9 children Alice, Thomas (being my GGGrandfather), Richard and Elizabeth. I'd appreciate your opinion:
Would they have lived in so many different places?
Having had Richard in 1797 abode Crosshowel, then Samuel abode Burton, back to my James at Crosshowel then back to Burton for Edward etc?
Would there be any chance you may be able to look for a marriage for John (James's dad) please. I know James probably married in Cheshire as his wife was from Pulford, Cheshire so I'm not too bothered about him.
Many, many thanks again Paul
Best regards
LibbyW
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Hi Libby, your guess is as good as mine about James's brothers and sisters. I would think Richard is being born Crosshowel, the thing is how close is Burton to Crosshowel and does one run into the other so to speak. Lydia is the only one with Fathers occupation, a Farmer and on the census you have James as a Farmer.
I was going to suggest looking for James's Marriage certificate for a Fathers name but very few had fathers name or occupation that early.
I did look at Gresford Marriages 1754-1812 but no James or John sorry.
If you think of anything let me know and I'll have a look.
Paul.
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Hi Paul
Hope you don't mind yet another query!!........do you know if Llanferres church records are held at Flintshire RO??........still hunting my complicated Woodwards!!
Many thanks
Sarah ;D
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Hi Paul
Hope you don't mind yet another query!!........do you know if Llanferres church records are held at Flintshire RO??........still hunting my complicated Woodwards!!
Many thanks
Sarah ;D
Hi Sarah,
Yes I do and yes they are.
Send me the info and I'll have a look for you.
Paul.
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Hi Paul
I'm trying to confirm an IGI record......
John Woodward Christened 9th November 1828 at Llanferres, parents John and Elizabeth??
I'm also trying to find out more about the burial of 4 sons at Llanfynydd...from a photo I have of the gravestone (erected by my late grandmother for her brothers).... inscription reads.....
"John, Vincent, David and Emlyn sons of Elizabeth and Edward Davies of Plat Cottage (UWCH Y MYNYDD UCHA)"
I appreciate that the last request will be near-impossible as I don't have dates!!!!
Many thanks
Sarah :)
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Hi Sarah,
If the boys where your grandmother brothers it would give me a starting point if you could tell me when she was born..... ish?
Thanks, Paul.
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Thank you very much, your help is appreciated. I will do abit more digging and give myself time to digest the info. I'll see if Burton and Crosshowel are close and then get back to you if I may.
Thanks again
LibbyW
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Hi Paul
Sorry....it would help !! ;D
Probable dates are 1910-1935ish, all 4 died young I think the eldest was late teens (emphasis on think..LOL) as a result of illness or accident. My grandmother's (1917-1990) parents could not afford a headstone at the time so when they died 1960 and 1967 (aged 74 and 81) she erected a headstone for her brothers at the same time for her parents.
Sorry....I'm rambling on!!..........
Many thanks again...
Sarah :)
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Hi Sarah,
I found a baptism record for a son of John & Elizabeth Woodward Llanferres, 9th November 1828 but it's for Robert not John. Father John's occupation is a Joiner.
No luck with the 4 brothers burials.
Do you have your grandmothers Christian name, married name and birthplace please. Do you also know where Elizabeth & Edward Davies married?
You never know it might help.
Thanks Paul.
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Hi Paul
Cheers for baptism!!......I did mean Robert not John!! ;D
My grandmother's name was Gwyneth Mair Griifiths (nee Davies) 1917-1990, she married John Henry Griffiths 1913-1973 in 1940 in Eryrys, where they lived all their lives and are buried at Eryrys. They were born Llanarmon/Eryrys/Llanfynydd.
Her parents were Edward Davies and Elizabeth (nee Woodward) married in 1909 at St Giles, Wrexham.
My mum knows very little of when her mother's (my grandmother) brothers died apart from John was a baby, David and Vincent were children, and Emlyn died after my grandmother was married, but before my mother was born (making it 1940-1949)........sorry this is becoming so vague, I do appreciate it makes a search hard work !!! but any help in the best way to tackle it all is very much appreciated.
Many thanks once again
Sarah :)
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Hi Paul
Cheers for baptism!!......I did mean Robert not John!! ;D
My grandmother's name was Gwyneth Mair Griifiths (nee Davies) 1917-1990, she married John Henry Griffiths 1913-1973 in 1940 in Eryrys, where they lived all their lives and are buried at Eryrys. They were born Llanarmon/Eryrys/Llanfynydd.
Her parents were Edward Davies and Elizabeth (nee Woodward) married in 1909 at St Giles, Wrexham.
My mum knows very little of when her mother's (my grandmother) brothers died apart from John was a baby, David and Vincent were children, and Emlyn died after my grandmother was married, but before my mother was born (making it 1940-1949)........sorry this is becoming so vague, I do appreciate it makes a search hard work !!! but any help in the best way to tackle it all is very much appreciated.
Many thanks once again
Sarah :)
Thanks for the info Sarah I hope I can find something from all that.
Are Daniel & Ann Woodward.Miner, Engineer, Farmer. Yours? children
John, Samuel, Adam and John 1841-1846.
Or Adam & Barbara Farmer Shopkeeper.Children.
Adam, Eliza---, John, Mary, Eliza, William and Robert 1814-1826.
Paul
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Hi Paul
Many thanks for Woodward info ;D
They must be connected somehow!!!!......they all favoured the names Adam, Daniel and Robert several times (up until the present day!!!)..just to make things confusing!!! ???
In a nutshell.......
My g grandmothers, Elizabeth b.1886 (married name Davies), father was Adam Woodward b.1867 to Robert b.1828 and Harriett b.1830 Woodward (nee Roberts)
Robert is the furthest I've got back at the moment with the Woodwards but the more I look sideways....the more Woodwards appear!!! LOL
I have no siblings for Robert at the moment so I wonder if the Adam and Daniel you have found are his brothers????
Many thanks again for all your help!!
Sarah :)
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Hello Paul
Are you still doing lookups at Flintshire Record Office? If so next time you go could you look up a couple of burials for me please.
Mary Griffiths died abt 1880 Clawdd Offa Hope Flintshire she was the widow of Edward Griffiths her age would be 79/80 years.
Also her son William Griffiths born 1825 Hope flintshire, William's last address on the 1891 Clawdd Offa Hope Flint, I last saw William on the 1891 census can't find him on the 1901 his age would be between 66 & 76 years. I appreciate it's a ten year span to look through so I understand if you can't do it.
Much appreciated
Ann
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Hello Ann,
Here they are.
Hope burials.
Mary Griffiths. Abode, Clawyd Offa. January 1 1881. aged 84 years.
William Griffiths. Abode, Meadow View, Hope. November 21 1898. aged 75 years.
Both buried by Robert Roberts, Curate.
Paul.
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Hi Paul
Many thanks for that, did you happen to notice if they are in the same grave?
Once again Thank you
Ann
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Hi Ann, I'll have a quick look next time but don't think the burial records give you that information. I think you'll need the grave records to tell you who is buried with who.
Paul.
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Hi Paul
Thank you I will try and get that, then it will save you looking again.
Ann
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Hello Paul
if possible could you look up a death record for me please.
Harriet Jones died June Q 1904 vol 11b page 168
Harriet Jones died Dec Q 1910 Vol 11b Page 147
She was living in Holywell, but I would like to know what her address was
Many thanks
Maureen
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Hello Maureen,
The Records Office do not hold death records only burial records. I could not see Harriet in the burials 1904-1910
I did find William, North View, Villas, Greenfield again but I think I found that for you once before, sorry.
If you have any thoughts please let me know I don't mind looking, see must be somewhere.
Paul.
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Thanks for looking Paul.
I did find out that Harriet was born in Nannerch in the parish of Cilcain and not Cilcain itself as I thought.
Her parents were Farmers living at Rhyd y crogwdd.
Do you know if the records for this area would still come under the Holywell area
Maureen
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Hi Paul
Me again!!......taking a break from my Woodwards and awaiting certs to hopefully confirm the Llanfynydd Burials!!!....so I'm on the Goodwin/Williams hunt......wonder if you can offer any help on the following.......
I have the birth cert of my paternal grandmother, who died before I was born and my father knows very little of her family.....
Rosa Marjorie Goodwin b.12/11/1920 at 14,Ponterwyl, Mold.
Father - William Goodwin,Foreman Railway Checker.
Mother - Florence Goodwin, formerly Williams.
Reg. District - Holywell.
Other siblings known....
Muriel E Goodwin 1916
Ralph Goodwin 1913
I've searched for a marriage and the only possible one I've come up with is......
William Goodwin and Margaret F Williams
Reg. District - Ruthin
11b 503 3rdQ 1912
Was Florence her midddle name??? Before I send off for yet another cert!!...LOL....is there anything at Flintshire RO that will help me prove/dis-prove this marriage?????
Many Thanks
Sarah :)
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Hi Sarah,
Don't send for the cert 'till I have a look in the records office. Pity you didn't ask yesterday I've been today looking for Edwards Family in Mold for Amanda. Here is the marriage I found of Elizabeth Edwards March 4 1861.
John Goodwin 25 Collier. New St Mold. Father John. Collier.
Elizabeth Edwards 21 Mold. Father Robert. Ostler.
Hope that keeps you thinking over the weekend.
Paul.
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Hi Paul
Cheers!! ;D
I'm sure I've got Goodwins living in New Street in my records somewhere........will investigate!!
You seem to use Flintshire RO alot!!......am planning a visit in the near future....is it user friendly to RO scatty novices!!??
Sarah :)
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Hi Sarah,
Yes, I have been known to use Flintshire RO from time to time......and I'll be going next week if they'll have me.
It is user friendly the staff are great and nothing is too much trouble for them.
You should try and get there yourself sometime and save me from looking for Woodwards. LOL. and to prove I'm only
joking I will find you some Goodwin's next week.
Paul.
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Hi Paul
I can sell you some Woodwards if you want...plenty of unknowns going cheap!!! LOL
I've never visited a RO before so think I'll take the plunge as it's no far from me here in Nantwich and combine it with a stop-off in Mold at my parents!!
Look forward to any Goodwin news next week!!
I also have a couple of Goodwins marrying some of my Woodwards and Morrlles/Moralees..............but that's another story!!!! ;D ........wouldn't want to send you over the edge!!!!....LOL
Many Thanks again!!
Sarah :)
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I think we're on to something here another marriage I found today.
Mold Aug 7 1866.
Robert Edwards Fullage Collier. Mold. Father Robert. Ostler
Sarah Morallee Fullage. Mold. Father James. Collier.
Witnesses. Mary Edwards and John Jones.
I think we might be in danger of finding out you are related to half the population of Mold.
Paul.
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Hi Paul
LOL.....probably........maybe somewhere the family motto is "we are Mold"!!!!! ;D
That marriage could well be mine.....as.....
In 1851 I have a Sarah Moralee b.1848, father James a coal-miner b.1805 Newcastle,Northumberland.
Gap in 1861.....as you know most of Flintshire and Denbighshire wiped out!!!!!
1871.....Living back with her mother Pheobe Moralee b.1803 Mold (wid) as Sarah Edwards (wid) and 2 children Edward Edwards 3 and Elizabeth 1.
.............and Phoebe was a Goodwin before she married James!!!!!........
.....a very tangled web!!! ;D
Sarah :)
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hi paul i was hoping you wouldn't mind doing a a couple of burial lookups for me i dont know where they are buried.
Thomas lloyd born abt 1814 flint died october 2nd,1882
wife sarah lloyd born abt 1817 died abt 1876.
Daughter catherine lloyd b1839-died1863. dont' know too much about this one she maynot be buried with them she may of been married not sure. Would be greatly appreciated. next time your down that way.
thanks
kate nsw
australia.
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Hello Kate,
Flint Burials.
30 May 1863. Catherine Lloyd. Abode Holyhead. age 24 years.
15 Jan 1875. Sarah Lloyd. Flint. age 59 years.
6 Oct 1882.Thomas Lloyd. Flint. age 69 years.
Don't know if they are buried in the same grave, you will need grave records for that.
I have the baptisms of Thomas and Sarah and their nine children, if you don't have them already.
Paul.
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Hi Paul
I wonder if you could do me a look up for a baptism next time you go and if you have the time.
It is for Edward Griffiths born 1794 Hope Flintshire, I don't think the date will be far out, you found me Edwards burial and I sent for the certificate and the his age at death is 75 years.
Thanking you Paul.
Ann
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Hi Ann, here he is.
July 20 1794 born 5, Edward Griffiths S/O Edward (Wheelwright) & Elizabeth Evans (Leeswood)
And a few siblings for good measure.
June 6 1789. Elizabeth.
Oct 30 1791. Thomas.
Aug 19 1798 Margaret.
Jan 1 1801 John.
Paul.
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Hi Paul
That was quick and many thanks , it's like having a birthday getting me the siblings also. I have done so well with this family and it's all thanks to you, my grandfather James Griffiths belongs to this family Edward was his grandfather, I know you looked for James burial for me but could not find it, now I can tell you why I found him in Abertillery and have just got his death certificate.
So many, many thanks.
Ann
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Hi Paul,
Recently you did a lookup for me on a Williams Family in the Holywell region many thanks for that, I sent you a pm to say thanks but not sure that your received it.
Is there any chance i can be a little cheeky and ask you for a bit more help with the same family?
Im looking for the Birth / Bap of a Harriett Jones bn 1851/2 in Rhyl, Flintshire to a James Jones a Smith (blacksmith)
Harriett went on to marry Thomas Williams in 1873 in Holywell where she was then living.
Thanks for taking a look for me, let me know if it is one reqest too many!!!
Best Wishes
Tammy
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I am searching for records of St Clare's Convent Pantasaph. My Mother was sent there from Birkenhead in the 1920's. She was an orphan. I cannot seem to trace any records for those times at St Clare's whatsoever. I think Mother may have gone straight into domestic service when she left St Clare's. But I have no details at all about that part of her life and would like to know more. I was adopted and have found out my Birth Mother that I refer to died in the 1980's.
Many thanks
Jo
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Well Jo I seem to recall this Convent being involved in another query on the Flintshie boards as I responded to it.However it was quite some time ago now and maybe someone on this Site will be abe to bring the query forward who is a little better than I am at using the search facility!
Regards
William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.
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Hi there is a whole lot of queries about this convent on this site. I can remember when at school in Merseyside in the 1950's lots of children coming and going from St Clares
suggest that you contact Liverpool Echo they run a column on saturday night. I think that you will get loads of replies form former students and they maybe able to fill in the gaps.
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I wonder if some kind soul could please do a look up for Pontbyddyn for me.
Elizabeth PRICE (spinster, of full age) married Richard WILLIAMS (blacksmith, of full age) on October 20th 1849.
They were both living at New Inn Yard, Pontbyddyn, at the time. His father was William WILLIAMS (Tailor) and hers was William PRICE (miller).
They had a number of children (Robert, b1851; Anne, b1853; Mary, b1854-56); William, b1860-63; and Richard Caleb, b1865.
I would like to focus in on Mary, who is my great grandmother.
A few years ago, another kind soul very kindly visited the registry office, and was able to get me details of the births of her siblings, Robert (May 27 1851) and Anne (December 26 1853), but wasn't sure of the birth month for Mary (27th,
possibly November), though thought it was 1856.
I would be very grateful if someone could do a look up for me.
As an aside, I would also be interested to learn if anyone has any information about New Inn Yard, Pontblyddyn.
By the way, there's a family rumor that Mary (or maybe her mother, Elizabeth PRICE), was in prison ay some point (as an inmate, or as an employee, I don't know).
Best wishes,
John
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Am I on the correct board for Holywell - Looking for Roberts (John Craft) born approx 1812. Cannot get any further back than that. TIA
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Hi
Still trying to find out about records (if there are any) for St Clare's Convent Pantasaph. Years I am interested in are 1926 - 1930's. Shall try Liverpool Echo, as suggested - thanks.
Is there a thread on St Clare's Convent Pantasaph, Holywell on Roots please?
Jo
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Paul
Could you help to check the records of inscriptions on gravestones at St Deiniol's church in Hawarden by any chance ?
I am specifically looking to find the graves of 2 people:
1) Ann Hart, died 28 Jul 1932 aged 83yrs
2) Alfred Hart, died 20 Apr 1949, aged 97yrs
I know that both are buried in the churchyard at St Deiniols, but I do not know if they are in a marked or unmarked graves
Cheers
JB
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Hello JB
I couldn't see anything for Ann or Alfred Hart in the monumental Inscription Index for St Deiniol's Hawarden :(
The dates you have a correct but are Burial rather than Death.
Paul.
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Hi Paul, Thanks for a great offer.
Please, when you get time, could you look up an Edward Edwards who was born in Mold (probably Maes-y-Dre) in around 1835/6. He is listed in a later Census after the family had moved away from Mold, and so that's all the detail we can find so far on his early life. In the Census entry his parents are Margaret (nee Roberts) and Edward Edwards (think he was a Cotton Spinner at the time). We know they were both born in Mold around 1801 and they married in 1822, and had many children, the youngest being Daniel Edwards born 1838 in Maes-y-Dre (so of course we got his birth cert). The curious thing is he is not found on the Census in 1841.
I know it's a very common name, so I hope an entry jumps out at you!
Regards and Thanks in advance, :-*
Lisa
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Hi Lisa, I had a look in mold baptisms but I couldn't see a baptism for Edward or Daniel :(
Do you know where Edward & Margaret married?
If you could post the census details I'll have another look.
It might be worth posting your look up request on the Flintshire board
a lot more people use that thread than this one.
Paul.
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Hi Paul,
Just came across this post and was wondering whether you're still able to do lookups at Flintshire Record Office? If so, it would be ever so much appreciated, I'm looking for the marriage of my friends grandparents Sydney Lovelock and Ruth Thomas between January and March 1935 in St Mary, Mold.
I'd also be really interested in the record of a marriage between a William Thomas and Mary Knight which happened between Jan-Mar 1910 in St Matthew, Buckley.
I'd be really grateful if you do manage to get chance to look these records up for me, if you're not planning a visit though please don't do so on my accord :)
Thanks for reading!
Lily. x
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Hi Lily,
Mold marriage March 13 1935.
Sidney Lovelock. 19. Bachelor. Labourer. 13, Aber Co???? Northop. Father, Thomas. Occ, Gardener.
Ruth Thomas. 17. Spinster. Milford St, Mold. Father, William. Occ, Labouer.
Witness. John Stanley Sephton & Elizabeth Eleen Rowlands.
Buckley marriage Feb 26 1910.
William Thomas. 22. Bachelor. Engineman. Buckley. Father, William(deceased) Occ, farm Labourer.
Mary Eleen Knight. 21. Spinster. Buckley. Father, Thomas(deceased) Occ, Brickmaker.
Witnesses. Joseph Knight. & Elizabeth Knight.
Buckley baptism.
Born June 12. Baptised July 25 1888. Mary Ellen d/o Thomas & Hannah Knight. Abode, Buckley.
Some other children of Thomas & Hannah Knight.
Born Sep 15 1886. Baptised Sep 21 1887. Thomas.
Baptised Nov 18 1883. Joseph.
Baptised March 1 1885. Ruth.
I don't often look at this post these days :P
If you need anyother look ups you might be better posting on the Flintshire look up board where more people will see it and might be able to help ;) :)
Paul.
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Hi Paul,
Wondered if you are still doing lookups. I am searching for burial records for a relative of mine. Mary Evans nee Windle was born in Liverpool in 1921 and died in 1979. I believe the death registration district is Rhuddlan Clwyd and that she was buried in Pantasaph.
Any help would be appreciated.
Regards
John Windle
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In the Cilcain Parish registers transcribed by the Clwyd Family History Society my 3g Grandmother is listed as Jane Kendrick baptised 10 June 1792 with parents Richard and Dorothy. I now have a problem because I think the entry has a mistake. Looking through the parish baptisms there are a total of 8 Kendrick girls born with mother Dorothy between 1788 and 1804
Kendrick Ann D Peter Dorothy 30 Nov 1788
Kendrick Mary D Peter Dorothy 3 Oct 1790
Kendrick Jane D Richard Dorothy 10 June 1792
Kendrick Dorothy D Peter Dorothy 2 Mar 1794
Kendrick Elizabeth D Peter Dorothy 8 Jan 1798
Kendrick Elinor D Peter Dorothy 26 Feb 1800
Kendrick Margaret D Peter Dorothy 9 May 1802
Kendrick Charlotte D Peter Dorothy 15 Feb 1804
however 7 of them give parents names as Peter and Dorothy but Jane's parents are listed as Richard and Dorothy. I have found the marriage between Peter and Dorothy in 1788 but I can find no reference to a Richard Kendrick married to a Dorothy. There is only one Dorothy mother for the period. Also you have to wonder that there is only one child born to Richard and Dorothy. Is it possible that there is a mistake in either the original record or in the transcript and Jane's father was in fact Peter. What I think is required here is a look at the original record to see if it is correct as transcribed and I wonder if this is possible please. ::Neil::
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Hi Paul. Lovely offer.
Can you help with Thomas Clarke, born Harding, Flintshire around 1821?
In the 1871 Census he is age 50, living with wife Eliza, 42, children Emma, 13, Henry, 9, and Mary, 5.
Occupation stableman, address Bruton Mews South, St. George Hanover Square, London.
I can't find his marriage, so I don't know if was in Flintshire or London, so I don't have Eliza's maiden name.
Any help much appreciated.
Molly.
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Hello Molly,
I've never heard of a place called Harding in Flintshire.
I think this could be him. Thomas Clark born Hawarden 7 Jan 1822 baptised 28 Jan.
Parents Thomas & Alice(Duckworth) his fathers occupation was a Coachman. Abode H Castle
There was also a Cooper Clark born Aug 1 baptised 24 1828.
Parents Thomas & Anne (Sanders) fathers Occ Coachman.
Hawarden Burials.
Jan 28 1822 Alice Clarke wife of Thomas a Coachman. Abode H Castle. age 34.
July 17 1830 Anne Clarke wife of Thomas a Coachman. Abode Broad Lane. age 44.
I couldn't see a marriage for Thomas & Eliza in Hawarden.
Hope this helps.
Paul.
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What a star! Thank you so much.
Any look-ups in London I can help you with, please ask.
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Hi Paul
Long time no "speak" nor woodwards!!...hope you are well....wonder if you could help on a Llanfynydd baptism c1896 for a daughter of Richard & Louisa Davies... the story so far on the following thread...
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,596904.0.html
No rush as usual!
Sarah :)
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Hello Sarah
It has been a while since we last "spoke" nice to "see" you. ;D
I had a look in Llanfynydd, Treuddyn & Hope around 1896 but couldn't see
a baptism for a daughter of Richard & Louisa Davies.
I did come across a baptism for a Richard Davies in Hope
Aug 31 1845 s/o Rees & Catherine.
Let me know If you need me to look for anything else.
Paul.
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Hi Paul
Sorry not replied before today but have been in sunnier climes!...this "Davies daughter" is certainly giving me the runaround!....
Not my Richard I'm afraid!....
Take care
Sarah :)
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Sorry if this is no longer possible, but I'm trying really hard anywhere I can think of to find the parents and possible siblings of James Henry Anderson, born March 1867 to James Anderson ( at the time "Fireman down coal pit" according to his birth certificate ) and Mary (Johnston), and the birth is registered at Hawarden.
I cannot find any James Anderson / Mary / young James Henry on 1871 or 1881 census in Wales or England. In fact, without an approximate age / birthplace for James & Mary I really cannot get any further back on this line for my other half, and I wondered if there may be some way of finding more information about where they lived.
Sadly, as he was working linked with mining, I wondered if he may have died in a pit accident between 1867 and 1871, and another rootschatter informed me of a theft from a James Anderson who was a miner, and who worked at a pit called "Flint Marsh", but online I haven't found mention of such an incident.
I'm afraid I have so little on these people, but I wondered if you may be able to help me with:
a) details of any deaths / pit accidents at that pit in the relevant period.
b) (grasping at straws) any other births to James and Mary Anderson round that period, for they may help me trace the family in later censuses.
I have NO census evidence for James and Mary anywhere, and young James Henry is invisible too until he pops up just before his own marriage, in Wigan area in 1888! From there on, I've got him, but I cannot find hair nor hide of his parents anywhere, and the only place I know where they firmly were was in the Hawarden area in March 1867 when he was born.
Sorry if it's not possible for you to help personally- I realise it could be a massive job - but if you might be able to suggest places I can try, that'd be better than chewing the ancestral carpet, as I feel to be doing every time I look at James Henry's very slim file.
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Hello Paul, Can't tell you how thrilled I was to stumble upon this, I hope you are still able to do a lookup or two, at your convenience. I am stuck on my great greats as well, both maternal and paternal hail from Wales, I have been doing a lot of digging but am limited from Canada, and moreover, a novice. Please if you would be so kind to look up my maternal grandma, Elizabeth Williams nee Davies, Born about 1849 Hawarden, she may have been born in Mountain Ash, Glam, from 1901 Prescott census. She was a coal merchant and married John Williams, 1866,in Flints, he, a coal miner, preacher, and fireman in the mines. They ended up in Prescott where my grandad was born, Thomas Norman (youngest of 6?) Anything you find out, would be amazing. I plan on visiting Wales this summerish and don't know where to start my visit. Diolch
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Hello,
I have contacted flintshire archives to ask if they hold any records for St Clares convent, 1950,s -1960,s Pantasaph.They said that they had had many enquires with regard to St Clares and told me they hold no records for St Clares convent and gave me an address for The Sisters of Charity of our Lady mother Of Mercy.I have written to this address and never recevied a reply.Nobody seems to be able to obtain their St Clares records.Does anyone now who holds the records for St Clares Convent Pantasaph or has anyone who attended St Clares Convent,Pantasaph been able to obtain their records and if so,how?.Any help with this enquiry will be gratefully received.Thank you
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I have written to the convent in Preston but no reply either.
Has anyone any more info - 1940/50's, the record office said they had school records
but there are no dates for the convent stays.
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Hi Paul
I don't know if I am asking this question in the right place so apologies if I am not. When you go to Flintshire Record office, what can you actually view? For example, I am trying to find the Birth Certificate for my grandfather, John Williams (Buckley). I know his father's name was Thomas. I have bought his marriage certificate. I am reasonably certain he was born on 14 April 1883 (from his headstone). When I look at the online Birth Index there are several John Williams that could fit. If I went to the Records Office what would I be able to see. just the index, the book where the entry was made, or the details of the certificate. Would visiting help me to choose the right John Williams?
I hope this makes sense! :-\