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Title: 1861 Phoebe Taylor
Post by: leeric on Monday 09 January 06 12:27 GMT (UK)
Hi,

I'm looking for Phoebe Taylor (nee Speakman) born 1833 Astley (baptised 1836 Astley). Married George H. Taylor in Manchester 1855. Had at least one child - Mary Taylor born 1863 Salford. Mary resident with her grand-parents on the '71 and '81 censuses. Have found a death for a Phoebe Taylor in Barton (i.e. Salford area) in 1863 which might explain why Mary was with her grand-parents.

I'm hoping the couple can be found on the '61 - presumably in the Salford/Manchester area - I'm really interested in their address.

Many thanks.
Title: Re: 1861 Phoebe Taylor
Post by: Bryan. on Monday 09 January 06 12:36 GMT (UK)
Hi

The address looks like...84 Oldfield Road,Salford.

Bryan

Title: Re: 1861 Phoebe Taylor
Post by: 'Tricia on Monday 09 January 06 12:39 GMT (UK)
1861

84 Oldfield Rd Salford Lancs

George Henry Taylor,Head age 30 Painter employing 2 men born Salford, Lancashire,
Phoebe Taylor,wife age 28  born  abt 1833  Astley, Lancashire
James Henry Taylor,son age 4 born Salford, Lancashire
Martha Taylor,dau age 1 born Salford, Lancashire

First name of son difficult to read

RG9/2923 Salford Folio 98 Page 4

Tricia
Title: Re: 1861 Phoebe Taylor
Post by: 'Tricia on Monday 09 January 06 12:41 GMT (UK)
Do you have George Henry with new wife and family 0n 1871?
The 1st 2 children are with him
Title: Re: 1861 Phoebe Taylor
Post by: Bryan. on Monday 09 January 06 12:46 GMT (UK)
Hi Tricia

The name of son looks like James Henry

Bryan.
Title: Re: 1861 Phoebe Taylor
Post by: 'Tricia on Monday 09 January 06 12:49 GMT (UK)
Yes that is what it is in 1871 but I didn't know at the time ;)
I read it as James Henry and so put that but I always say when it isn't quite clear.

Is that clear - sounds like a load of nonsense but you know what I mean ;D ;D ;D

tricia
Title: Re: 1861 Phoebe Taylor
Post by: Bryan. on Monday 09 January 06 12:54 GMT (UK)
Hi Tricia

Yes I know what you mean.......'clear as mud' as my mother used to say.

Bryan.
Title: Re: 1861 Phoebe Taylor
Post by: leeric on Monday 09 January 06 13:20 GMT (UK)
Hi,

No I don't have George on the '71 - would appreciate it.

See you, Lee
Title: Re: 1861 Phoebe Taylor
Post by: 'Tricia on Monday 09 January 06 13:40 GMT (UK)
1871 census

8 Brighton Terrace Eccles New Road Salford

George H Taylor,Head age 40 Builder born  Salford, Lancashire
Ann Taylor,wife age 37 born  Bradshaw, Lancashire
James H Taylor,son age 14  born  Salford, Lancashire
Martha Taylor,dau age  11 born Salford, Lancashire
Phoebe A Taylor,dau age 4 born Salford, Lancashire
George H Taylor,son age 3 born Salford, Lancashire
Jane Manchester,sister in law age 33 Singleborn  Middleton, Lancashire

RG10/4026 Salford Folio 132 Page 31

Called their 1st daughter after Phoebe :) :) :)

tricia
 
Title: Re: 1861 Phoebe Taylor
Post by: JosieTaylor7 on Tuesday 13 February 18 08:45 GMT (UK)
Hi there
I came across this post trying to find out about my family history.
George Henry Taylor was my great great grandfather.

His children were;
George Henry Taylor Jnr(estate agent)
James Henry
Isaac Henry Taylor (born 1975,my great grandfather, who immigrated to New Zealand)
Phoebe
Martha (named after his mother)
Joseph (had dye works at Bolton)
Jack (a doctor)

I have been able to figure out George Henry Taylor's parents were Soloman Taylor and Martha Taylor (nee Thomas). They were married in 1819 in the Cathedral in Lancashire, England. That is as far as I have been able to trace on the internet with out paying for an ancestry subscription.
If you know how to go further from here or if you have gone back past Soloma and Martha,  I would love to hear from you  :) :) :)
Are you related to Martha Taylor? When George Henry Taylor died, Martha immigrated to Canada with Isaac Henry Taylor (before he came to New Zealand. They bought a farm in Saskatchewan.
I hope what I have posted helps you.

Below is what I found on George Henry Taylor on the Weasteheritagetrail.co.uk site
George Henry Taylor was an Estate Agent, Salford Councillor for 8 years and a member of the Salford Board of Governors.
 
He was born on 7th November 1830 in Oldfield Road, Salford. He was a painter by trade, but after only a few years he decided that owning property would give him a better living. He built and owned a large number of houses and owned an Estate Agent business, which his son George Henry junior, joined and inherited (when his father retired early), at 243 Eccles New Road, Weaste.
 
George was married four times. Firstly to Phoebe Speakman in 1855 at St.Mary's, Manchester. Their children were George Henry Jnr (born 1856) and James H., (born 1857) who went on to become a Doctor in Weaste and who died in 1932. Sadly, Phoebe died on 15th April 1864. The second marriage was in 1864, to Henrietta Harrison by Registrar in Salford. Tragically she was to die a few months later on 15th October 1864 at the age of 21. George Henry married for a third time to Ann Manchester at St.John's Church, Manchester in 1865. She died on 13th July 1884 at the age of 50. Wife number four was Ann's younger sister Jane Manchester. They were married at St.James's Church, Gorton in 1886. She survived him and died on 6th July 1916 aged 79. Throughout his married life, George Henry lived on Oldfield Road, Regent Road and finally at Holly House on Eccles New Road.
 
George Henry Taylor was connected with the Methodist Free Church. In 1874 he joined Liverpool Street United Methodist Free Church and erected their new premises. When a section of the congregation decided to leave, he went with them and became a founder member of the United Methodist Free Church in Eccles New Road. Here he was a close friend of Timothy Boddington. George was an earnest advocate of temperance and took an active interest in the Excelsior Band of Hope Society. He became a Sunday School teacher, Superintendent and Lay Preacher.
 
In politics, George was a Liberal. He was elected Councillor for St. Stephen's Ward in 1873 and served until 1881. He was also a member of the Salford Board of Guardians for a number of years, under the chairmanship of Rev. James Clark. He was a fluent speaker and a good friend of the poor.
 
Towards the end of his life George suffered ill health. He died at his residence, Holly House, Eccles New Road, on Monday 30th May 1904 at the age of 73. The funeral was held on the morning of Friday 3rd June. As Jane was very ill, a service was held at Holly House conducted by Revs. W.H.C.Harris (President of the UMFC), Thomas Cooper (of Eccles and formerly of Salford) and E.D.Cornish (Chapel Secretary, Methodist Free Church and formely Minister at Eccles New Road church). The cortege proceeded to Weaste Cemetery where Rev W.H. Cory-Harris committed his remains into plot B2 in the Dissenters portion.
 Cheers Josie