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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Clare => Topic started by: rainy on Tuesday 17 January 06 23:55 GMT (UK)
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Looking for Mary O'Farrell's family.
Mary b. about 1843 County Clare.
married William Stewart Dickson 1862 in Victoria Australia. Died in New Zealand
Thank you Rainy
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Hello Rainy,
Three items are required when searching for Irish ancestors.
1. Denomination.
2. Parish.
3. Townland.
You'll have to rely on Church records as Mary was born prior to the introduction of Civil Registration in Ireland. This happened in 1864. Marriages of Non Catholic were registered from 1845 onwards. Have a look at the thread headed "Advice on how to find your ancestor's home" on the Ireland general board.
Christopher
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:)Thank you Christopher for your advice.
I think denomination was Roman Catholic, But Parish and Townland I do not know.
There was Scarriff on their marriage licence.
But I don't know whether that is a parish or townland.
When we live so far away and don't understand Parish and Townlands, as well as Counties, takes a little while to work it all out. But will get there.
Once agaon appreciate your help.
Rainy ;) ;)
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I am also looking for O'Farrell from around that time in Scarriff (Patrick m Mary Morrissey). There were not many O'Farrells in Clare so it is possible they are connected even though I did not come across your ancestor. Happy to exchange information.
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Thanks antigoon. Sorry no further forward with my O'Farrell research.
Need to go to folder and see if parent's name or names are mentioned. :)
My only info re Mary is the marriage certificate in Victoria Australia in 1862.
Perhaps I need to buy her death certificate in New Zealand.
Interesting you say not many O'Farrell's around at that time.
Will be in touch if new info comes forward.
Many thanks, rainy
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Don't forget your Mary may be recorded under Farrell. I found it can be a bit hit and miss with the O, either when transcribing records or another family with the O surname was in the area. This practice seems to have extended to arrival in Australia at least in my family's case.
This is not your Mary but FamilySearch Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes, 1845-1958, records death in Scarriff 1916 of a Mary Farrell born 1843.
If you get around to chasing parish records, Scarriff or Scariff, is a town in the parish of Tomgraney, barony of Upper Tulla, co. Clare, Munster, Ireland. But to confuse things, I read somewhere that it was the main registration centre for the south-east quadrant of Clare. I found using Tomgraney helpful.
Also the LDS film note adds the Catholic parish of Scariff and Moynoe contains the civil parish of Moynoe and part of the civil parish of Tomgraney.
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Thats very helpful antigoon.
Haven't heard of Tomgraney before.
We certainly have to read and take in what we can from the Irish sites we are on.
Mary's father was Daniel O'Farrell - Farmer. Mother Bridget O'Farrell and think it says nee O'Farrell.
This from Mary and William's wedding info.
Is this any help to you??
Think you may be from my side of the world as well, or you are very late.
Many thanks rainy
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Daniel would be of right age to possibly be a brother to Patrick O'Farrell however I have not sussed out that generation as yet. He had a daughter Bridget born in Ireland about 1851 according to her Australian marriage record.
Interestingly it is her three youngest siblings that were born in Ireland, each with the surname Farrell. I am confident this is correct as the father/mother combination matches, year of birth matches, Australian electoral roll names are consistent and it fits into the two year sequence between kids.
The story I am told is that the name changed to O'Farrell in Australia when two Jim Farrells began feuding. The name change explains why no matching records found for O'Farrell in Ireland but have done for his wife, Mary Morrissey.
And yes, I am probably in your time zone but also not unknown to stay up late on occasion;)
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Okay that adds a little more to check out again.
Mary and William came to New Zealand very soon after their marriage at Beechworth Catholic Church. As on their eldest daughters headstone says where she was born.
Just looked again at wedding info.
Seems they lived at Morses Creek before their marriage.
William would have been chasing the gold I would think.
So is Morses Creek a gold mine area.??
Also one of the witness's was a Michael O'Farrell.
Yes we can all burn the midnight oil when busy on research.
This is my husbands g.grandparents.
Another small piece of info, the lady witness was Annie Carrington (I think that is correct).
Be interesting to see if this now helps us find some more info, also more will have become available (I hope ) since I last looked.
Many thanks. rainy
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ok, seems like a might have some info for you if Morse's Creek is in play. A couple of weeks ago I chased down a story on a Patrick O'Farrell / Mary Leydon / Leadon/ Laden/ Ladain) that had so much in common with the story passed down to me in terms of names and places. Unfortunately the son James of this Mary Leyden died ten years earlier than the son James of Mary Morrissey, something which I could not explain especially after the other Morrissey children lined up with my Dad's recollection of aunts and uncles and even funerals.
This Patrick was born in Wexford and presumably arrived in current Portland and worked his way through the central goldfields to Morses Creek, later renamed to Bright, where he met and married Mary Leyden. Patrick and Mary then moved with the gold to Woods Point and Jordan so not difficult to assume they later made their way to Beechworth and Yackandandah. Anyhow, they had two daughters called Mary Ann, the first in 1866 d one year later and another in 1872.
A guy kindly looked this up on his Diggers Database when I was trying to confirm "MORS" referred to Morses Creek. All of the details at http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/10072.1/mb.ashx.
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Thank you, have just read threads on 'ancestry'.
Wondered about being cheeky and asking re Daniel and his family.
but I didn't.
We have to remember as well as certificates are only as good as the info the person gives.
Have seen some which make one wonder.
Yes we have to check all the different spellings as well.
Some nothing like what we are looking for.
That was very good re Morses Creek/Bright.
There are some very helpful people out there ready to help.
Towns are still doing that changing names.
I think William Dickson may also have come with a brother if the shipping list I found is the correct man.
But haven't anything re this other man.
Yes also have in families where they use same name when they have a new baby.
Of course Mary Ann will be a family name.
Thank you rainy
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Hi was wondering if you have come across a Michael Reynolds marrying a bedelia or brigade or brigit o'farrell mine married 19 Sep 1842 strokestown roscommon witness 1 Michael Farrell and witness 2 Margaret Croghan i have been trying to find a death date or parents names for this couple i would say they where born early 1800 as my grgrgrandfather was born in 1830 he was not baptized till 1843 any help greatly appreciated
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Hi Natae, only info I have on O'Farrell is what is on message board.
So sorry I am not able to assist you with names you were asking about.
All the best with your research.
Rainy
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Thanks no harm in hopeing will keep looking
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:)Thank Natae.
One of the most imoportant things is to keep asking and looking, as you just never know when there will be a connection. As some one once told me look wider at peoples names, as oftern there are different spellings.
Enjoy your research.
rainy
:)