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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Mayo => Topic started by: Hawkshaw on Sunday 19 February 06 21:03 GMT (UK)
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I am researching the Hawkshaws of Aghagower, Ayle, Toberrooaun and Westport and have made great headway. I need to find some information about Greevys who are connected with our family. If anyone has any knowledge about any of the above, please post a reply.
Other names associated with our family in that area are Croker, Malynn, McGing and Basquill.
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Hi
Hope you see this, I know you posted in February :) I have a little information on the Basquills, its very hard to find anything about when they were in Ireland but you are welcome to what I do have
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Hello,
Yes, please - I'd love to see your info. on the Basquills.
Many thanks.
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Hello Hawkshaw,
When were your ancestors in Aghagower, Ayle, Toberrooaun and Westport?
Christopher
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Hello, I also have Greevy roots from Aghagower and would like to see if we share family ties
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Hello,
Anne Grievey/Greevy was my great, great grandmother who had 3 children by Michael Hawkshaw of Aghagower in the 1870s. He was married to someone else! She moved to Altamont St., Westport at some stage and I think she called herself a widow, even though she didn't ever marry anyone.
Her daughter was Mary (my great grandmother), who called herself Hawkshaw before marriage. She married John Croker who died, then Thomas Malynn. She had 4 children by each husband and the fourth of these was Lily Croker, my grandmother.
Does this fit in with anyone at all? I was amazed to find all of this out when I started researching, as I thought that having 3 children by a married man in those times would have been outrageous and not something that she could have covered up!
Thanks,
Ann.
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Hello Ann,
Unfortunately this does not appear to match our family. My great grandfather was Richard Greevy and he had 4 children -Michael one of his sons was my grandfather and he came to the US in 1904. I know there was one girl that stayed in Ireland and her name was Bridget and she marred someone whose last name was Watters. I have been hoping to find some of the family down thru Bridget but so far have not had any luck. I know she has at least one child, a daughter named Mary Elizabeth. From the 1911 census they lived at Toorbuck in Aghagower.
Sandee
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Hello Sandee,
I'd say that our families were probably related further back as Aghagower is very small and there weren't many Greevys there. I have visited Aghagower a couple of times.
I'll keep you in mind if I find any more connections for my Anne Greevy and let you know if I can connect her to your Richard.
Regards,
Ann.
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Thank you - I appreciate that. I have found from my researching a John Greevy also from Toorbuck so I looks like he was Richard's father. I was just there in May but only has a short time there as I was on a tour. I hope to go back in another year or 2 at the latest.
Sandee
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I too am researching the Hawkshaws of Co. Mayo, specifically those related to William Robert Hawkshaw of Toberrooaun born about 1868. He was my wife's great grandfather who, along with his wife and four children, emigrated to Canada in 1910. They settled in the Calgary area.
According to the 1901 Irish census he was a landholder and had three houses. One was occupied by his family and the other two by Jane Hawkshaw (age 70) and Michael Basquil (age 50)
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Hello Someday11,
I think I can help you with that. I quote from page 115 of the book 'Descendants of John Hawkshaw of Louisburgh, Co. Mayo' by Evelyn Hawkshae Rogers:
"Continuing with the early Robert of Ayle, we can account for three children: Ellen b. 1815, Ann who died in 1818 and Henry b. ca 1818.
Henry married Jane Burrowes at Ayle on 1 August, 1853, and they had six children: Eleanor, Anne Jane, Elizabeth, William Robert, Lucy and Henry. Henry, the father, died 18 July, 1891, 'an old miser'. Daughter Eleanor married Robert Nesbitt McAdam, a brother to Susannah McAdam, wife of Robert Evans."
Would that be your William Robert?
Regards,
Ann.
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Dear Ann,
Thank you so much for getting back to me. I definitely think that this is the genealogical link that I've been searching for. In fact, last week I was in Westport, Co. Mayo and was able to see the old house, talk to the family that has owned it since William Robert sold it to them. Regrettably, I'm enroute back to Canada so will have to wait until a future date to return and continue my research.
Here is why I think we're talking about the same person:
On the night of the 1901 census William Robert Hawkshaw was listed as the owner of 3 houses in Toberrrooaun. One of them was occupied by his mother Jane and her 5 year old granddaughter Lucy McAdam.
We have a picture of the family standing in front of their house that was probably taken in 1901. The location is actually the south east corner of the main intersection in Mace, Co. Mayo. The current owner of the house has a sundial that was inscribed Hawkshaw - Aille 1846
Part of the challenge that we've been having accessing information has been because of inaccuracies in census record entries and online transcription. For instance, my wife's grandmother (William Robert's 3rd child) was incorrectly identified in the census as Eliza Louisa and her brother as Donald. Her name was actually Emma Lucy and the brother was Oswald. William's mother is listed online as Hawkhaw and his wife was in Mount Talbot that night with her father William English
The family, which by then included a 4th child Martha, emigrated to Canada in 1910 aboard the Athenia and arrived in Quebec city on May 31st. They settled outside of Calgary, Alberta. Oswald was killed in World War 1 (1916) shortly after his 18th birthday.
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My 2nd great grandmother was Eleanor Hawkshaw from Mayo, she was a sister of William Robert Hawkshaw.
LH
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Hi!
My dad is Theodore Croker, born in Dublin. His dad is John Joseph Croker, born in Westport to Mary Hawkshaw and John Croker. They were married 20.05.1894. John was born 1865 and died 24.04.1900, but I don't know anymore about him! Mary is buried in Aughagower cemetery.
This would mean my grandfather is Lilly's older brother. He was born 02.08.1898. There were 5 children from this marriage. I didn't know my grandfather. My dad didn't know his extended family. He did try to find out about them years ago and we spent many years going to Westport during my childhood.
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Hello Katrina,
I have just seen your post about the Croker connection. We are definitely related! Your grandfather, John Joseph Croker, is the older brother of my grandmother, Lily. That means we share the same great grandparents. I have so much information for you.
Two of your grandad's two sisters, Annie and Kathleen, went to America in the early 1920s. The other sister (Lily - my Nanny) stayed in Ireland and later moved to England. Your grandfather, John, also had a daughter called Phyllis, I believe, who lived in Newry. We saw quite a bit of Phyllis when we were children on holiday in Ireland. My mother remembers your father, Theo. Her name is Marion Corbett.
Our great grandmother, Mary, remarried when John Croker died. Her second husband was Tommy Malynn and they had four more children, making eight for Mary in all.
Do you have an e-mail address for correspondence? I hope to be able to fill in lots of gaps for you. Look at the online census records for 1901 and 1911 for a start. They lived in Altamont Street, Westport.
Many regards,
Ann.
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Hi Ann,
Thank you for replying! I did look at the census and I had known they lived in Altamont St.
I still go to Westport and know people there.
I also remember my dad was friends Vinney Malynn, I alsoet him and his family as a child.
My mam told me a man contacted my dad from America years ago who wanted to meet him but the man died before that happened.
I knew my Dad had an older sister but I don't think they met. I only found this out after he had died. I didn't know her name and my Mam had told me she lived in Dundalk, but I had feeling that was wrong. I had tried to search for her.
I can't seam to pm you, must be because I have only posted once.
I will do another quick post to see if it works. ☺
Regards
Katrina
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Hi again,
I found Mary Hawkshaw/ Croker/ Malynn's death notice in one of my searches.
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They were C of I apparently.
Link to Census to save others having to look for it...
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Mayo/Aghagewer_South/Teberreeaun/1603741/
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Hi Ann,
I can't seem to pm my email address to you. You can find me on Facebook or pm your email to my so I can reply to you. Thanks!
Talk soon,
Katrina ☺
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I have sent you an e-mail, Katrina. It's great to be in touch.
Regards,
Ann.
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Here is a link to the census record for our family in 1911. They were Roman Catholic. Katrina - your grandfather is there aged 12: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Mayo/Westport__Urban/Altamont_Street/749214/
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RC registers are online, free!
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My 2nd great grandmother was Eleanor Hawkshaw from Mayo, she was a sister of William Robert Hawkshaw.
LH
Residents of a house 4 in Teberreeaun (Aghagewer South, Mayo)
Hawkshaw Michael 75 Male Head of Family R Cathloic Religion
Residents of a house 12 in Teberreeaun (Aghagewer South, Mayo)
Hawkshaw William Robert 33 Male Head of Family Church of Ireland